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PostSubject: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:14 pm

Hi All,
There are numerous posts discussing and/or arguing the various merits of oil filter brands on the boards. What I can't seem to find though, is a good listing of what Oil Filter #s fit the Silverwing. I've also not found a good summary of brand part numbers anywhere else on the Intertubes. Here's an attempted start, maybe we can put our heads together and get a somewhat complete list. I'm trying to include some links to where you can get it, but obviously other sources will be available...

Brand:_________ Part #___________ Where to buy:____________________________________________
Honda ---------- 15410-MFJ-D01 -Honda Dealers, Online OEM vendors USA: http://www.ronayers.com
Fram Motorcycle- PH6017A -Lots of retailers, Wally World, etc. (FWIW, this filter gets an awful review on http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/fram.shtml)
K&N Motorcycle - KN-204 / KN-204C -Online dealers, http://www.bikebandit.com www.amazon.com find a local dealer: http://www.knfilters.com/search/dealersearch.aspx
HiFLo ----------- HF204/HF951 - Online dealers, http://www.bikebandit.com, scootertrap, etc.
Amsoil ---------- EaOM103/103c - Online dealers, local affiliates. http://www.amsoil.com
Purolator ------- ML161817 - Local parts stores and big-box stores. Probably some online places too.
Athena --------- FFP00?? - http://scootertrap.com
Vesrah --------- SF-4007?

Anyway, there's a start!

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2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:28 pm

Hi Jeff,

The Super Tech oil filter sold by WalMart is made by Champion not Fram. It's a great filter and I use them on my Silverwing.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:40 pm

Dennis,

I took this info from another site. I figured he already banned me so there is no harm now. It's funny...I can still get on the site.

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:30 pm

Here's some very thorough motorcycle filter info. The Swing filters are in group 5 down near the bottom of the page.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html



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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:32 pm

DennisB wrote:
Hi Jeff,

The Super Tech oil filter sold by WalMart is made by Champion not Fram. It's a great filter and I use them on my Silverwing.


They are reasonable enough, that's for sure. I find the metal housing to be a bit on the thin side. I use Wix (NAPA Gold) and Purolator PureOne on mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:53 pm

I get my K&N filters from ScooterTrap.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:36 pm

One nice feature about the K&N oil filter is that is has a welded on bolt at the top of the filter which makes it easy to break it loose with a socket/ratchet when it comes time to change the oil.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:21 pm

Big price difference between K & N and Wix, Purolator PureOne, NAPA Gold. As in about $9 difference each.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:26 am

bigbird wrote:
Big price difference between K & N and Wix, Purolator PureOne, NAPA Gold. As in about $9 difference each.


I ride about 3000 miles a year, so I look at the ease of changing well worth the $9 a year. No expense for ill fitting really big sockets, no scuffed knuckles during changes.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:24 am

And what's funny is that those expensive K & N motorcycle oil filters aren't even recommended due to their lack of filtering element material. Go figure.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:55 pm

I find the recommendations somewhat suspect when they call the OEM filter unsatisfactory.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:53 pm

Hey Guys,

This guy went out and spent a bunch of money on all the different motorcycle oil filters and cut them apart.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:12 pm

Sounds like the Purolator One wins the day. In the long run, it's probably more important that you change your oil and filter on a regular basis rather than getting caught up in the type of oil and filter. I'm one of those who shells out for the AMSOIL Fluids both in the engine and in the rear. Does it make a difference.... Maybe..... but probably only slightly at best. Maybe my engine lasts 10,000 more miles than the guy that uses Supertech. But at the end of the day, both of us will probably have moved on to a different bike before it would ever be an issue for comparison. If someone uses the $2 supertech filter compared to a $6 they'll save $120.00 having only spent 60 bucks for filters for every 100,000 miles driven. The other guy will have spent 180 bucks but will have confidence/comfort/peace of mind that his filter is doing a superior job. Either way..... They both Win in their own mind!
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:28 pm

Hi Ron,

I was a Amsoil sales person back in the mid 70's. So you think amsoil in the best?
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:37 pm

Hey Dennis,

They seem to have a good reputation for quality lubricants and the test results that I've seen done by the API are excellent. They are not neccesarily the best in every category but usually close to it so that is why I purchase them. I acutually by a six month membership and put together an order large enough to last me for a couple of years. I am getting low on Amsoil so I will have to do it again soon. Did you have a good experience working with Amsoil Products?
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:02 am

Ron, Good luck with the Amsoil thing. I trust SuperTech products (Champion)...O' buy the way Champion also makes oil fliters for the Harley-Davidson Motorcycle. Not the after market filter, but the one Harley puts their name on. When you buy a $25,000.00 Harley it has a Champion filter installed.

Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:09 am

Dennis,

What was your experience with Amsoil? I'm perceving that you didn't have a positive one. If so, what specifically turned you away from their products?
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