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joeam
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PostSubject: Noise on Acceleration   Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:04 pm

I'm hearing a clatter sound on acceleration sounds like a diesel clatter to me but i dont think its the engine any idea where to start looking?
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:26 pm

Hi "joeam",
The gurus will soon be advising you on this but I'm sure they will want additional information before they can determine a starting point... is the noise from any of the drive train components (the engine, variator, rear clutch, brakes, etc)?? Possible plastic panel clatter ?? Any info you can add will be a big help... by the way... welcome to site !!
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:40 am

WT?! I hear a noise. What is it?

Sorry, my psychic powers just don't seem to be working today.
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:58 pm

I'm afraid I hear a noise is a bit like the film line "I see dead people" unique to the individual.

If it's noise as you accelerate "gently" then it's normal (belt/roller take up etc) If you're new to bikes "every new sound is terminal"

Look at it as a car engine, if your car sounded that bad (Not a diesel) would you take it to a garage. If yes explore further, dealer advice costs nothing just don't get lead into  parting with cash through your inexperience.

Any biker mates to ask their opinion ride beside for a listen?
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:09 pm

If its a screaming noise it might be the pillion!
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:41 pm

steve_h80 wrote:
If its a screaming noise it might be the pillion!

:lol!:
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:55 am

joeam wrote:
I'm hearing a clatter sound on acceleration sounds like a diesel clatter to me but i dont think its the engine any idea where to start looking?

It probably is a Fuel clatter, Try a tank of high test and see if it goes away. Honda calibrated the FSC600 so near lean that in hot weather it is dangerous to the engine.

If your noise stops, I would put the bike on a high test diet to remove all the carbon deposits that the regular gas has built up. Happy motoring lloyd193. swing
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:32 pm

Try an "Italian Tune-Up". While sitting on the bike, hold the brakes on firmly and give full revs to the engine for NO MORE THAN 3 SECONDS! Then release the throttle and let it idle for a couple of minutes to let things cool down.

Mine vibrated and clattered like mad for a while when setting off. The windscreen and fairings would act as sounding boards to the point of being embarrassing.

I put it down to belt slap on the lower drive casing, probably aggravated by grease and/or dust contamination of the belt and clutch shoes.

Anyway, it did the trick - but no longer than 3 seconds or the clutch bell will overheat and get "blued", and you definitely don't want that to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:08 am

I own a '09 which is high mileage and close to roller and belt replacement time. (sigh...again!) When I heard clattering the first time at around 20 000kms I was really worried, but the bike kept on going just fine. It starts up at around 4500rpm when accelerating and disappears at around 5000rpm when I have leaned into the throttle a bit. At my next belt/roller change it was gone for a while and then back again.
I reckon cagers must believe I'm riding around on a bucket of bolts when I pass, but after joining this forum and reading up a bit, I've realised the 'rattle' is just the rollers or belt slap - perfectly normal for a Swing with a bit of character.
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:42 am

Mighty Mouse wrote:
I own a '09 which is high mileage and close to roller and belt replacement time. (sigh...again!) When I heard clattering the first time at around 20 000kms I was really worried, but the bike kept on going just fine. It starts up at around 4500rpm when accelerating and disappears at around 5000rpm when I have leaned into the throttle a bit. At my next belt/roller change it was gone for a while and then back again.
I reckon cagers must believe I'm riding around on a bucket of bolts when I pass, but after joining this forum and reading up a bit, I've realised the 'rattle' is just the rollers or belt slap - perfectly normal for a Swing with a bit of character.

I'll bet that, when you change the belt, if you also change to Dr Pulley Sliders in place of OEM rollers, AND pull the Driven Pulley, use sandpaper to deglaze the clutch bell & clutch shoes, that your noise goes away.

Oh yeah... Do a thorough cleaning of the accumulated belt dust & grime inside the belt case too. And don't forget to clean the belt case filter.

Tim

Well that's my 2¢
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:59 am

Thanks Tim. Would you believe Dr Pulleys already winging their way from Buggy Parts? The belt I can at least get locally. Unfortunately, they land here within a week and then take up to a month to get from the customs to a street address??? We are charged first world taxes, but get third world services......aaarg!
I'm lucky to have a good friend who is a Suzuki Burgman mechanic and happy to turn his hand to installing and cleaning things when I need it. So I'll be doing exactly as you suggest!

Hope this also helps you joeam!! Sorry to hijack your thread.
MM
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:11 am

Got a mate in South Africa to whom I sent a package. It took three days to get to SA and then five weeks to get to his house!
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:38 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions i'm leaning to the Noise being the belt and rollers i have several other motorcycles but this is my first scooter so i was a bit worried.thanks again...joe
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PostSubject: Re: Noise on Acceleration   Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:40 pm

It took me a while to get used to it also. Remember the throttle body produces a lot of rumbling sound when first accelerating. Almost thought I had a cam change going bad.
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