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PostSubject: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:29 pm

Just out of curiosity how much are people paying
for electricity where you live.

To keep it simple. I take the total of the bill. Doesn't matter how they get to the final number. Includes tax,hydro, delivery charges, what ever.

Total Bill / KiloWatts = cost per KW.

I live in Ontario Canada
My last bill was $196.27 / 723.7KW = .27 So that is 27 cents per KW.
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:11 pm

$ 15.00 consumer charge whether you use 1 or a 1000 kWh
724 kWh @ $0.023000 that's distribution charge. $ 16.65
724 kWh @ $ 0.079059 that's generation & transmission charge. $ 57.24
Rider A adjustment $ 3.37
Water heater control credit -( $ 1.25 )
Cool returns control credit - ( $ 5.00 )
Left over credit from last months bill - ( $ 8.00 ) I get this once a year it's the amount of your bill from 10 years ago, last month bill was -0- $
Total $ 77.98 for 724 kWh.
Each months bill has a set back that is paid to the owners estate, so far it's built to $ 1,800.00
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:52 pm

Wife said our last monthly bill was $350 dollars--or was it $450?  Anyway, it was a bunch.

Here in Texas: Lax utility regulation + 100 degrees almost every day + 2 a/c systems in our house (one per floor) running almost constantly = a big bill each month in the Summer.
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:00 pm

Oldwingguy

We have 5 components to our bill.
That's why I look at the bottom line.

So yours sounds like.
77.98/724 = 10.7 cents. per KW.

Even with the difference in the dollar you are half what we pay.
We are getting ripped.
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steve_h80
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:08 pm

Dunno, running the sw on squished dinosaurs at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:57 pm

Reg, In 1992 Bush senior went to a Earth summit in Rio de Janero, Brazil and signed over the future of our nation to what is known as U.N. Agenda 21. When it was brought back to the states it's name was changed, by Bill Clinton, to Sustainable Development for a better world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SLhPGnUQ7w

Higher power rates, water costs, Food, and Housing to mention a few things. Older laws are being changed and new laws are being passed to take away your home and property ownership.

People need to Know. Shocked Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:35 pm

Reg Wrote

"Even with the difference in the dollar you are half what we pay.
We are getting ripped."

Reg, not just in Electricity but in almost everything else, it's a special tax just for the privilege of living in Canada!
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:53 pm

ChilliWing. That's a good name.

Everything else. Your not kidding.
If you can get it here, there is a premium price.
Otherwise you just can't get it here.
I live near the US border (20 minutes to US customs) Even with the difference in the dollar
it still pays to shop US.

Dennis. That is interesting to here about the Bush Sr. plan.
I thought we where the only ones getting screwed. But I guess not.
Ontario hydro used to be a government owned utility that operated at a loss.
They sold half of it to a private company, who has quadrupled the rate.
One part of the bill has been "debt retirement" Where we had to pay off the debt from the old crown corporation..
That went on for years after the debt was payed. It was only because of constant publicity
in the news that they finally dropped it. Then all in the same breath they increased rates by 10%.


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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:11 pm

One reason for our rate is we are a coop, the user runs the company. Coming up is our annual meeting where EVERYTHING is discussed and sometimes cussed. All expenditures are there for all to see and it's just a matter of introducing ones self to any level of management to vent or thank. Our service area is broken up into sections each with a representative WE elect from a cross section of like owners. One more perk (s) free lunch and very nice door prizes for those attending.
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:56 pm

Deleted by author - inappropriately political.


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Modernman1953
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:40 pm

$75 for my electricity.



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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:08 am

About two years ago i had Solar panels fitted to my garage roof. I get paid for every Kilowatt I generate whether I use the electricity or not. Over the year ( even in cloudy rainy England), I generate enough to cover my use age. After the initial cost of fitting the panels, I should be in pocket. So in effect my electric is free
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:01 am

How long will it take to recoup your initial investment with the solar system?
Solar and wind are great ideas / set ups but the major lacking there isn't so much of what does one do when the sun doesn't shine nor the winds blow? There is no storage of those systems unless one is off grid enough to have the low voltage battery back up system and converters. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation because if you don't have back up then what?, gas, coal / nukes aren't fired up at a moments notice to make up the difference and the more we tie our grids together the more vulnerable we become to problems from nature and the evils of mankind. I set our place up with gasoline generator back up but even that has it's limitations.
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:15 am

I did not intend for this to become a political debate or even a policy debate or a debate at all.
Admittedly I got into it too.
Obviously if people have an alternate source of electricity it does not fit into my intended question.

I was merely trying to establish a cost per KW for different areas from your local utility.
This cannot be done by looking it up as utility companies have different components to the bill.
But the bottom line is

Total cost on bill divided by KW usage = cost per KW.

So far we have this results

In Ontario Canada we pay 27 cents
In Hocking Hills US they pay 10.7 cents
In Florida US they pay 10.6 cents

This could be interesting to see what different states, provinces, country's pay.
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:55 pm

I've no idea what we pay for electricity here in North Yorkshire, I'd have to ask the Master of Coin who occasionally changes our utilities suppliers for a better deal, and I'm not disturbing her as she's currently watching some subtitled Danish police drama on TV.
We live in a new build double glazed house, insulated to the current industry standard, and all the light bulbs are either low energy or LED. There's an energy consumption meter in our kitchen that scrolls through all sorts of electricity and gas data and prices, and I haven't a clue about it. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:16 pm

Results so far

In Ontario Canada we pay 27 cents
In Hocking Hills US they pay 10.7 cents
In Florida US they pay 10.6 cents
Western Wisconsin. $0.12/kwh = 12 cent/KW
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:52 am

I'm with Meldrew on this one (except that Senior Management is currently watching some US crime drama).
Fully insulated bungalow, low energy bulbs, and a little gizmo in the kitchen with numbers whizzing round. At my age, it's too much like hard work to learn what it does, or why! scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:59 pm

Me, too.
My flat is all-electric and I pay the bill by Direct Debit, not paying much attention since I have to use the cooker at least if I want to eat.

It's a warm flat meaning that last winter I didn't have the main heating on at all barring one night - I had to turn it off because I was too hot!
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PostSubject: Re: Electricity rates   Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:30 pm

Results so far

In Ontario Canada we pay 27 cents/kwh
In Hocking Hills US they pay 10.7 cents/kwh
In Florida US they pay 10.6 cents/kwh
Western Wisconsin. $0.12/kwh
Long Island, NY .19/kwh
Arizona 11.6 cent/kwh
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