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PostSubject: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 3:56 am

As we all know well the Silverwing suspension is not, how to say gently, the best in the world. I have HyperPro front springs installed which improved handling quite a bit. But still the weight ratio front/rear is probably 30/70.
So I am considering the LeoVince muffler (http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-honda/terminale_lv_one_omologato_evo_ii_passaggio_standard_silver_wing_600_i_e_2002_2010/14670) with claimed weight savings of 7kg ( 15.4lbs). This weight reduction would be nice especially that the muffler is placed at the very end of the bike.

Does it make sense? I would like to hear from people who have non OEM muffler installed on their Silverwings

Yes, I know that I could buy Yamaha T-Max, but I am not giving up on Silverwing yet.
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 7:39 am

Only one thing to say about non OEM mufflers having ridden BEHIND a Burgman with one, get in front of it ASAP, the same for any loud bike. My previous 91 G'Wing Smile little known is one can remover the downturn tips and slide a nice looking chromed straight pipe over the OEM muffler, gives it a nice Porsche rumble which after 15 or 20 min. becomes less Porsche and more of a PITA. Remembering we have no insulating cage around us to help deaden the noise. If there's one thing the general public doesn't like about bikes is the noise. Will the non OEM muffler make that much difference in balance?
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 9:19 am

Had a Leo Vince on my Burgman 400 when I bought it - nearly drove me mad! Couldn't wait to get rid of it and go back to OEM.
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 9:28 am

Perhaps the way to address the 30/70 weight bias and the and 'non gentle' suspension is to replace the rear shocks with something like Hagon's.

When I ride I want to be in the moment, not be in the noise

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 9:56 am

Who are you kidding? A weight reduction measure? HAHAHAHAHA
Did the little lady buy that excuse?
Its okay. We're family here. We can keep a secret.

Having had the leoVince 4road exhaust on my Silverwing from 2004-2012ish I can tell you that there is a baffle (doing this from memory) that can be taken out by unscrewing the two screws in the rear or the muffler. If you take this out the volume will increase noticeably. If you do not, there is little increase in the muffler volume.
You can also expect an improvement of a few HP, which is a nice bonus.

15lbs on a bike that weighs over 500lbs...probably over 700lbs with the average rider is a
weight reduction of 2%. That's important if your racing, but its not going to fix your problem.
Considering the amt of money you will spend on an exhaust, if your goal truly is weight reduction,
then as Cosmic Jumper stated, you are better off spending the money on new rear shocks.
Hagon Shocks are the GOTO shocks for Silverwing. Its a much more cost-effective purchase.

Dan

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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 11:51 am

dspevack wrote:
Who are you kidding? A weight reduction measure? HAHAHAHAHA
Did the little lady buy that excuse?
Its okay. We're family here. We can keep a secret.

Having had the leoVince 4road exhaust on my Silverwing from 2004-2012ish I can tell you that there is a baffle (doing this from memory) that can be taken out by unscrewing the two screws in the rear or the muffler. If you take this out the volume will increase noticeably. If you do not, there is little increase in the muffler volume.
You can also expect an improvement of a few HP, which is a nice bonus.

15lbs on a bike that weighs over 500lbs...probably over 700lbs with the average rider is a
weight reduction of 2%. That's important if your racing, but its not going to fix your problem.
Considering the amt of money you will spend on an exhaust, if your goal truly is weight reduction,
then as Cosmic Jumper stated, you are better off spending the money on new rear shocks.
Hagon Shocks are the GOTO shocks for Silverwing. Its a much more cost-effective purchase.

Dan


It is not much, but located at the "wrong" end of the bike (of course it has to be there).

Hagon website does not show any shocks for Silverwing any more unfortunately.

Did you have a chance to use them?
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 1:51 pm

Me personally I did not have need for the Hagon Shocks.
Hagon does a lot of custom work.
They have the Silverwing specs.
Even if its not on their website anymore, which may simply be a function of website space, and lack of popularity anymore, email them and ask.
I bet they are still available.

Dan
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 2:31 pm

Hagon shocks for Silverwing on UK E-Bay £80.00 plus postage (not new but hardly used).
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PostSubject: Re: LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure   LeoVince muffler as a weight reduction meassure I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2015 1:18 am

Tone wrote:
Hagon shocks for Silverwing on UK E-Bay £80.00 plus postage (not new but hardly used).

Thanks. This seller doesn't offer international postage, but there are new Hagon shocks for sale as well.

Are Hagons  that much better than OEM?
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