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PostSubject: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 04, 2014 2:54 pm

I found a socket for the jam nut on the steering stem. It's a suspension spindle tool for a Toyota and is a 12 point that will work on the odd ball jam nuts and has a 3" working depth (we need 2 3/4")

Sunex 2804zd 1/2-Inch Drive 32-Mm 12-Point Deep Spindle Nut Socket


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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 04, 2014 10:45 pm

Thanks Ron. I'm just about to replace my steering head bearings on my '03. Your info is right on time. I removed the handlebar covers tonight to eyeball that nut and it appears to be 'not a traditional' nut, but a nut that needs 'fingers' to fit into 4 slots on the 'nut'. I suppose it's some kind of spanner type nut. That said, I'm looking thru all the stuff that's under the handle bar covers and I'm not sure that I'm looking at the right piece. I was always under the impression that it was a 32MM nut that required a very deep socket.

Where did you get the Toyota tool?

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 05, 2014 2:00 am

The link below is the parts breakdown for the steering stem. Item 6 is the spanner nut you see with the 4 slots, this is the nut you tighten for the bearing preload. You can use the spanner wrench from your tool kit for this. Item 1 is the lock nut that you will need the 32mm deep socket for. I tried a 12" crescent and a plumbers basin wrench with no result to break it free.

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/hon/5053f2f9f870021c54be6d27/steering-stem

From the top of the stem to the top of the spanner nut is 2 3/4" that's why you will need the extra deep socket to loosen and torque the jam nut.
BTW after I cleaned all the gunk from the area I found the jam nut to be an 8 sided odd ball octagonal nut.  

I ordered the socket from Amazon, it's on it's way ..... I hope. Do a search on .....  
" Sunex 2804zd 1/2-Inch Drive 32-Mm 12-Point Deep Spindle Nut Socket "  
I called all the local stores listed in the search with hopes that it may be in stock, no luck they all had to special order it.

[Edit] https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunex-2804zd-12-Inch-Drive-32-Mm-12-Point-Deep-Spindle-Nut-Socket/113671006060?epid=5017170213&hash=item1a7751e76c:g:DPwAAOSwBZ5cetXZ

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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 05, 2014 2:36 am

Remove the bars from the post handle and support the weight then remove the post handle from the steering stem. you don't have to disconnect any cables or hoses.

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/hon/5053f2f9f870021c54be6d26/handlebar-handle-cover

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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 05, 2014 10:45 am

Thanks for those photos and info Ron. So I guess then that the reason for the 12 point socket is because of the odd shape of that (#1) Lock Nut. I'm glad that you were able to figure out what kind of socket could be used on that nut. I would have accumulated a whole lot of useless trial & error hardware trying to find something to fit --and the end up ordering Honda's Special Tool.

Are you planning to replace the head set bearings, or are you just repacking the OEM bearings? I have my new bearings & seals on hand, but in retrospect I probably should have made the change to tapered roller bearings.

I'm sure interested in how you get on with your job.

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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 06, 2014 7:26 pm

As I fitted taper rollers I had to take the handlebars off a couple of times while things were "bedding-in", gettin the angle on the 'bars so the plastics went back on nicely was a fiddle, so second time around I got out a paint pen & marked the bars & riser caps

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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 06, 2014 9:55 pm

Thanks for the heads up, I marked the bars prior to disassembly. The first time I removed them on our 2006 I didn't .... lesson learned!
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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 07, 2014 4:57 am

Good find on that socket BTW Smile while you are waiting delivery you might like to make one of these .. stem nut tool, that & your socket the job will be a breeze
The only other thing I found that was awkward was the lower bearing outer race removal, so made this .. simple "drift"

HTH
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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 07, 2014 11:25 pm

I got the socket from Amazon today and made it thru the disassembly, repack and preload adjustment before I called it a day. The socket worked fine but looked like it would be a hit and miss situation as far as the the way the flats on the nut fit the socket. The shock spanner wrench worked for adjusting the bearing preload but The Bern's stem nut tool would have made the job much easier. I ended up using a 8" crescent to extend the handle of the spanner wrench to get the last bit of the 3.7 lbs of pull on the front shock tube.

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PostSubject: Re: Steering Stem Socket   Steering Stem Socket I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 08, 2014 5:05 am

Thanks for taking the time to write-up & take pic's, that socket is way better fit than what I used to take the nut off first time.
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