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PostSubject: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 7:29 am

Hi all just had my bike serviced 4000 mile service even though only done 1500 miles [under warranty] so had to be done.When next service due will be out of warranty ,so figured will do minor services myself [how hard can it be]? What are the essentials in terms of tools ? I was thinking a oil filter wrench, do i need a torque wrench ?And i guess a spark plug socket and a set of feeler gauges. I have a reasonable socket set upto 22mm , but no ring spanners,Will not do valve adjustments or anything too technical though.Pretty sure i am up too the task of brake pad replacement and maybe drive belt replacement at 15000 miles .Any polite suggestions gratefully recieved ,just after the essentials not a full armoury guys . :not worthy: 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 8:47 am

I do all the maintenance on my SiWi .

The common things.
No need for special tools....

- for the rear wheel bolt you need a 27 mm socket.

- a torque wrench is nice to have.
( i don't )

- A digital universal VOA meter is a must if you can use it and can make conclusions according the measurements.

- a variator holding tool is a must .
(cheep to make it your self, search this forum)

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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 9:02 am

As you have put this under the "other scooter topics" section rather than the maintenance section, I assume this is for a bike other than the Silverwing. Mechanically inclined people (like eddy) can help you with the basics but we have no way of knowing what specifics might be necessary relative to whatever bike you are talking about, unless someone here has the same bike.

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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 9:05 am

I purchased a deep (4.5 inch) socket to change out spark plugs and a oil filter wrench to change oil. Basic hand tools, I already have. Anything too technical and I will ask for help! Decide what you will do and plan accordingly! Fortunately the Silver Wing does not require a lot of maintenance Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 11:27 am

dspevack wrote:
As you have put this under the "other scooter topics" section rather than the maintenance section, I assume this is for a bike other than the Silverwing.  Mechanically inclined people (like eddy) can help you with the basics but we have no way of knowing what specifics might be necessary relative to whatever bike you are talking about, unless someone here has the same bike.

Dan
According to his into' it's a ... sh 300i .... I would have thought that the tool kit supplied with the scooter would suffice for basic service items.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 12:20 pm

If you plan to do service, I would suggest a shop manual. Since your scooter is different from the Silver Wing you need to know that advice on here might not apply to yours.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15, 2013 5:34 pm

Good advice there "Hi Yo",woodworker to that end see ........

2007 - 2010 .......... http://www.diyspareparts.com/parts/honda/sm-sh300a-07-62ktw00/

2011 onwards ......... http://www.diyspareparts.com/parts/honda/sma-sh300-a-62ktw00z/
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:13 am

Site admin, bike is a Honda sh 300i sorry about not makin that crystal clear Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:21 am

Thanks for the link the bern,will only do oil and filters change plus brakes and pretty much routine stuff too save a few shillings.Watched a few videos on scooter maintenance think I am capable. Five of the lads in my family car mechanics, only wish one was a motorcycle mechanic ha.Still I know there steer me right if I have a problem go steady .Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:25 am

HI YO, workshop manual great idea I will see if I can get a Haynes one .Do you have Haynes manuals in the states? Be safe.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:31 am

Thanks eddy, I think I may get a tool too hold the variator. But will see how much Honda quote for a belt change first, take it easy small moped 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:34 am

Woodworker,sorry but there is no Haynes or Clymer manual available for SH300 bud
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:37 am

Hi ghm-pm, oil filter wrench a definite thinking on the lines of the belt type so it wont damage replacement filter .Spark plug easy access on my scoopy .interest 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:41 am

Hell and damnation ,bern what do you suggest? Will need to bite the bullet and get one from HONDA?Any idea what they cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 10:49 am

The ones in my link are a touch over £42,you could try giving Wemoto a bell on 01723 597072 they may stock them,not managed to find a downloadable on yet either but will try again later this evening Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 11:44 am

Woodworker, why are you on the Silverwing website, if you don't own a Silverwing?Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 12:27 pm

Probably to stay in touch with scootering friends.
I'm still on the X9OC site for that very reason and as time has passed many there no longer own X9s but have bought Silverwings and other maxis so there is something of a database for other makes.
Add to that there are people who have great general mechanical knowledge and one can pick their brains on general 'scooter' matters.
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PostSubject: Serviceing(sic)   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 12:59 pm

If you buy a genuine filter from a Honda dealer it can be got with the removal tool for a very small sum extra to the filter cost, a real bargain, I have ended up with several of them as it's often [i]cheaper[i] to buy the package.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 1:02 pm

Thanks Mike O, it just seemed to me that, when i owned a Deauville i was a member of that website, and everyone else was talking about the Deauville. I would not have stayed on that site and started asking questions about the Silverwing. Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 1:43 pm

I suspect that a number of us who meet here are interested in Riding in general as well as having a great interest in the Silverwing so hang around.
I suspect also that if Honda ever stop making Silverwings and we have to move on to another make we'd open a section each on this forum for the popular replacements but still have 'communal' areas.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 2:10 pm

Thanks for taking the time ,[the bern] I will make some enquiries also the phone number very helpful thankyou.Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 2:19 pm

Old limey, mikeo has answered your question for you.With some style I might add.There is a section here on this site for [other scooters]even though I sometimes post in the wrong section oops sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 2:58 pm

Woodworker, it seems i was wrong. I didn't realise there was another section for othert Scooters, my apologies.Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 16, 2013 5:08 pm

woodworker wrote:
Thanks for taking the time ,[the bern] I will make some enquiries also the phone number very helpful thankyou.Smile
Pleasure bud,shame I can't find a freebie download yet,but I am still looking Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 17, 2013 4:15 am

Old limey, apologies accepted we all get it wrong from time too time its called being human ha.Dont get me wrong I am always making mistakes especially with p.c.s.but as my old dad says if you don't make a mistake or two ,your not doing anything .Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 26, 2013 9:54 am

Hi the bern ,you were absolutely correct about the workshop manuals,haynes do one for general scooter maintenance on most types upto 250cc so that may have some value?Went into my Honda dealer yesterday they want £42 pretty much what you said, but will take a month too get here why I do not know.Guess it will be on the Christmas list or am I deadhorse ha ha go steady.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 10, 2013 4:15 am

HI all ,went and ordered a workshop manual on the recommendation of you guys .Figured the cost of the manual will be outweighed by how much money it will potentially save me .So as soon as it comes will have some bed time reading too do .Thanks for the advice all Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 10, 2013 3:27 pm

woodworker that was the best money you ever spent.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 10, 2013 3:30 pm

woodworker,

Like Rodger said...that is a good thing to do. There are also instructions and pictorials here to help with thingsn as well. Sometimes the manual isn't very good at explaining things. But it is the bible to the SWing though.
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 11, 2013 6:06 am

Thanks guys for the help although I do not own a silverwing,find this site very helpful cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 22, 2013 6:31 am

Morning all you scooterists ,well got my service manual two weeks early .Apparently printed in Belgium ,I believe Honda have a large distribution centre there.Took some bedtime reading but made me drop off a treat ha.Seriously very useful book with all torque settings and most information I will ever need.Now I am armed and ready too take on the beast spanners in hand . :affraid:Ride safe .
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PostSubject: Servicing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 22, 2013 6:50 am

Woodworker, you did very well to get a Honda manual from your dealer, I had no success when I tried for the SWing and ended up ordering one from the States for a slightly different bike. Another forum to join for advice is MaxiMuppets and no doubt Meldrew will give you his opinion on that one. Be careful now that the frosty mornings have arrived !!
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 22, 2013 7:32 am

Seeing as I've got a mention and you think I have an opinion, I haven't got the slightest interest in the Honda SH300i and like Old Limey can't understand why woodworker keeps plugging it here on a Silver Wing forum. But I agree with you that the Muppets is probably a better forum for advice on all things SH300i, as quite a few Muppets are past and present owners. In fact I've just done a quick Search on there for SH300 and there are currently 551 posts on 56 pages.   Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 22, 2013 8:40 am

Thanks bikerboy for the advice .I thought I posted this in the section [OTHER SCOOTER TOPICS] So as not to annoy the dedicated swingers on the site.My profuse apologies if that is not the case old limey MR MELDREW. :not worthy: 
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PostSubject: Re: Serviceing   Serviceing I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 22, 2013 9:16 am

There's no need for apologies mate, or to address me as Mr Meldrew. I'm not annoyed either, but I'll simply point out that it's bad forum etiquette to use upper case letters to address someone in a post, it's classed as shouting at them.

I'll let you get back to reading your Service Manual. Smile 
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