Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum

Welcome to the Silverwing 600 Forum. We ask that you be polite and PLEASE GIVE US THE COURTESY of introducing yourself on your 1st post. The members are friendly and helpful so just have fun.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Latest topics
» US Market for Big Scooters, just the Burgman and maybe a Kymco?
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby Johnbil09 Today at 9:00 pm

» Hello my name is Boe Smith and i live in Fort Myers Florida. I have a 2006 silverwing. I
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby Robert Smith Today at 1:39 pm

» Windshield opinion(s)
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby Mike M Today at 6:01 am

» can and should I replace my dual brake cylinders with a single reservoir?
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby XDM© Today at 2:22 am

» Just changed the belt and installed new 21gr Dr Pulley sliders !!!
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby Delray Yesterday at 4:54 pm

» Clutch removal of 22mm bolt
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby Johnbil09 Yesterday at 11:10 am

» Hyperpro Fork Springs
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby cello33 Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:20 pm

» Problem with the Batterie
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby Dave Weller Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:12 pm

» new member introduction
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby sonuvabug Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:22 am

» Best exhaust for the Silverwing 600
help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeby GHM-PM Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:35 am

Navigation
 Portal
 Index
 Memberlist
 Profile
 FAQ
 Search
free forum
 
 

 help! with rough ride scooter?

Go down 
+8
Meldrew
MikeO
tarmacburner2
gizmoguy
robert
gooffy
hotwings
putzz
12 posters
AuthorMessage
putzz
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider



Number of posts : 1
Location : central mn
Points : 3912
Registration date : 2012-07-17

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 11:25 am

my bike is perfect.. except on rougher roads.she beats me up..she has only 2000 mi.on her because of this. I also have a Harley bagger BUT that bike is getting a little hard to handle around town.SO is there any tricks to a softer ride on the sw:( im pushing 70 and a light weight.. and don't sniker.tnx:evil:
Back to top Go down
hotwings
Silver Wing Expert
Silver Wing Expert
hotwings


Number of posts : 876
Age : 52
Location : Ontario
Points : 4964
Registration date : 2012-04-29

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 2:31 pm

I know what your saying about the poor ride on a rough road. I think its due to the small diameter wheels. I think some guys here have switched out the shocks to help with the ride. Just do a shock search in the search bar. As for me, and the mrs. we will avoid the known rough roads. Every now and then a bump will take us by surprise! Not that big of an issue for us to spend the moola on!
Back to top Go down
gooffy
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
gooffy


Number of posts : 181
Age : 61
Location : berwick upon tweed
Points : 4074
Registration date : 2012-09-13

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 3:50 pm

I am 12 stone soaking wet and have my shockers on 4, i found that to be my most comfortable setting
Back to top Go down
robert
Super Scooter Rider
Super Scooter Rider
robert


Number of posts : 267
Age : 79
Location : arizona
Points : 4861
Registration date : 2010-09-19

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 8:13 pm

I don't know how many pounds equal a stone, but I weigh 175 lb. and have my shocks set at 3, which gives me the best ride on rough roads. Although we have fairly decent roads here in Az. Ride Safe.
Back to top Go down
hotwings
Silver Wing Expert
Silver Wing Expert
hotwings


Number of posts : 876
Age : 52
Location : Ontario
Points : 4964
Registration date : 2012-04-29

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 9:36 pm

1 stone = 14 lbs
Back to top Go down
gizmoguy
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider



Number of posts : 21
Location : portland oregon
Points : 3601
Registration date : 2013-06-23

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 24, 2013 3:41 am

Not helping but stone weight is awesome. Wink

my SW was set at 1 when I got it with an attached trike kit.
When I took the kit off I did not change the settings.
It felt a bit odd not sure if it was soft or just me. Need more riding time before I can have a true idea.

I moved it to 3 for my last ride which was some country twisty road and bunch of freeway.
I am about 195 pounds (13.93 stones, can you use decimal in stone measurements?) the bike seemed to handle fine.

I hit a couple of pot holes and they did not feel all that great.

The SW handles small bumps smoother than my Zuma scooter but I wouldn't want to go down gravel or ugly roads any longer than I had to.

Not sure if that helps any...

Mike <><
Back to top Go down
tarmacburner2
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
tarmacburner2


Number of posts : 1099
Age : 69
Location : Cleveleys, Lancashire, England
Points : 5932
Registration date : 2010-03-27

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 24, 2013 4:46 pm

Mods,
Has my post on this thread been deleted?

Cheers,
Back to top Go down
MikeO
Site Admin
MikeO


Number of posts : 3729
Age : 73
Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK
Points : 8990
Registration date : 2009-06-29

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 24, 2013 6:26 pm

Not by me.
Yesterday I typed a long post and inadvertantly forgot to press the 'SEND' button then wondered why it wasn't in the thread.
Have you done the same perhaps?
Back to top Go down
tarmacburner2
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
tarmacburner2


Number of posts : 1099
Age : 69
Location : Cleveleys, Lancashire, England
Points : 5932
Registration date : 2010-03-27

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 25, 2013 4:31 am

Mike,
As far as I remember I saw the thread after I posted it and I thought I hit the 'Stop watching this topic'. (It was a comment about making an introductory post).

Cheers,
Back to top Go down
Meldrew
Visiting Curmudgeon
Meldrew


Number of posts : 4074
Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK
Points : 8700
Registration date : 2010-11-16

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 25, 2013 9:25 am

I'm with you on the Introductory Post thing, it seems to be too much of an effort to do when you're joined the forum just to flog something or to get a quick fix for a problem and then disappear. And if anyone thinks it's just me being a miserable old git, have a quick look through the Members List.  Neutral


Last edited by Meldrew on Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
gooffy
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
gooffy


Number of posts : 181
Age : 61
Location : berwick upon tweed
Points : 4074
Registration date : 2012-09-13

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 25, 2013 11:40 am

just you being a miserable old git,Shocked hee hee
Back to top Go down
john grinsel
Curmudgeon
john grinsel


Number of posts : 3254
Age : 83
Points : 8796
Registration date : 2009-08-18

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 27, 2013 6:10 am

silverwing rides well----adjusting shocks only changes preload on rear springs. SilverWing has solid mount engine (so does Burgman 650 and new BMW scooter.)
Feet forward position does not allow you to "post" to let your legs take some of the bump. Depends if you are highway peg/cup holder rider or rider who is active part of riding dynamics who uses feet and legs to take some of the shock of bumps/poor roads. However putting feet forward, pressing forward, adds to comfort and control......And if you do not ride a lot (25-50,000 miles a year) is your body in shape to take the bumps?
Back to top Go down
rjdoles
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
rjdoles


Number of posts : 139
Age : 74
Location : Columbus, Ohio
Points : 4024
Registration date : 2012-09-24

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 27, 2013 10:15 am

As John said, the shock settings only change the preload.

Preload determines the ride height of the rear of the scooter. The shock springs are going to find equillibrium at some height, ideally in the center of the shock travel. If the shock is in the center of it's travel then it has range to compress for bumps and extend for potholes while maintaining tire contact with the road.

If you are a heavier rider or ride two up, the spring compresses more and the rear of the scooter would be lower. You can increase the spring preload to compensate for the increased weight and restore the ride height to the center of it's travel.

There are probably some better aftermarket shocks out there that would improve the ride some. They would likely have compression and rebound adjustments to them as well as preload. I am sure that they are not cheap.

As with every component on the scooter, Honda has to balance the cost of the shocks against shock performance. They did that with the seat, windshield, lighting and tires.

I would put the shocks in the "just OK" category.

I believe that the bigger problem is a lot of unsprung weight. The more weight that moves up and down with the rear tire, the worse the handling and the rougher the ride.

Fortunately, the Silverwing engine is frame mounted unlike smaller scooters where the engine moves/pivots with the back tire. That cuts down on unsprung weight. Unfortunately, there is still the clutch assembly, gearbox and a pretty massive swingarm assembly that pivots with the rear tire. The Silverwing is better than most scooters but not as good as a motorcycle.


Last edited by rjdoles on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
gadget
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider



Number of posts : 9
Location : stotfold herts U K
Points : 3839
Registration date : 2012-10-04

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 27, 2013 10:36 am

hi Name is Gadget live in U K Bedfordshire Just did a 500 mile week end to Wales on 600 wing
we felt every pot hole , shocks were on max:5, the book states max weight 392lb we added up our
total me 15 and wife 11 stone with kit on. So with 55lt top box and cloths we were almost on the
the limit, so had a word with Hagon shocks. they made me a pair up to suit us, they came next day.
now on bike. this has transformed the ride ready to try French back roads for a 8 day tour.
when I road solo no 5 on Honda shocks were perfect for me, but two up it was scary when i had to
stop at the many round abouts and junctions I could not hold the front wheel strait in line.
we just did a 2 hr trip into the Fens where the roads are dire due to subsidence, we survived these
so bring on France and there D roads.
Back to top Go down
"Hi Yo"
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
help! with rough ride scooter? 510-80


Number of posts : 2940
Age : 74
Location : Winnsboro, Texas, U.S.A.
Points : 7956
Registration date : 2010-02-17

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 27, 2013 11:12 am

gadget wrote:

so bring on France and there D roads.
Be careful what you wish for; Big brother IS listening! Smile
Back to top Go down
rjdoles
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
rjdoles


Number of posts : 139
Age : 74
Location : Columbus, Ohio
Points : 4024
Registration date : 2012-09-24

help! with rough ride scooter? Empty
PostSubject: Re: help! with rough ride scooter?   help! with rough ride scooter? I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 27, 2013 12:22 pm

gadget wrote:
hi Name is Gadget live in U K Bedfordshire  Just did a 500 mile week end to Wales on 600 wing
we felt every pot hole , shocks were on max:5, the book states max weight 392lb we added up our
total me 15 and wife 11 stone with kit on. So with 55lt top box and cloths we were almost on the
the limit, so had a word with Hagon shocks. they made me a pair up to suit us, they came next day.
now on bike. this has transformed the ride ready to try French back roads for a 8 day tour.
when I road solo no 5 on Honda shocks were perfect for me, but two up it was scary when i had to
stop at the many round abouts and junctions I could not hold the front wheel  strait in line.
we just did a 2 hr trip into the Fens where the roads are dire due to subsidence, we survived these
so bring on France and there D roads.

Gadget, could you provide us with a little more information on the Hagon shocks please? Price, international shipping?

Thanks
Back to top Go down
 
help! with rough ride scooter?
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Summer scooter ride to SoCal
» Rough acceleration
» Good test to see if you are too old to ride scooter/motorcycle
» Scooter/geocache/blue crabs..a morning ride in the low country.
» Open Colorado Maxi Scooter Ride June 20-23 With BJ Strass

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum :: Honda Silver Wing :: Silver Wing Topics-
Jump to: