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PostSubject: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 1:15 am

From https://www.silverwing600.com/t3279-new-weight-los-program-flat-tire-on-scooter#29910

Tagg wrote:
Something we did on our sportbike forum is have people list who is willing to go get downed riders from accidents, malfunctions etc. it is called a rescue list.The list is on the forum, and you cam pm someone for there number if you are going to be in an area they can get to. Saved my ass several times.

With all the riders here, it might be a good idea to have something like this here as well. So if you have a truck, or trailer, and are willing to help rescue a silverwing rider, ill make a post about it if the powers that be want to make it a sticky

How did the Rescue List work if you did not contact someone ahead of time.

I would be interested in any ideas or suggestions how we could setup a Rescue List while protecting each member's private information.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 1:23 am

I would be interested in this idea. I think the key is to use a PM to contact others in areas where you will be traveling. I'm sure others have been members of these type of lists and can give us their opinions of the pluses and minuses. Like all things the devil is in the details.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 7:12 am

Need some way to sort members by location. This function is not currently possible in the "Members" section. Then again, members who would like to help would need to make certain that they have entered their location.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 8:11 am

As a member that just went through a situation that this list would have come in handy. Not necessarily to come pick me up, but just to point me to a repair shop. I called a friend back home to look on the PC to help me.
I believe most if not all members of this forum would be anxious to help someone broke down in our neighborhood.

Great idea Tagg
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 12:20 pm

The BMWMOA (BMW Motorcycle Owners Assoc) publishes an annual book called the Anonymous with nothing but phone numbers and general location of people willing to help stranded members. Of course, BMWMOA is a dues supported organization. I've not been a member for about a decade now, so I suspect that this info is now available on-line.

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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 2:28 pm

I'm wondering (for privacy reasons) if it wouldn't be equally valuable to have a list of "known good" shops we've frequented... That way, if a rider did have a breakdown, they'd have something readily available that would help them know where they'd be able to go that could at least spell Honda FSC600. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 4:53 pm

The GWRRA (Gold Wing Road Riders Association) publishes their 'Gold Book' annually, which is a rather large listing of people willing to help, exactly as per this discussion. When you join/renew, you have the option of being included in the book or not. It is a dues supported orginization. They aslo have a section for 'Gold Dealers' which have to be recommended by members as a good place to go when out of your normal stomping grounds and dealer services are needed. They handle the privacy issue by offering the opt-out policy. You are not listed unless you want to be.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 5:25 pm

GaryL wrote:
The GWRRA (Gold Wing Road Riders Association) publishes their 'Gold Book' annually, which is a rather large listing of people willing to help, exactly as per this discussion.

What type of information is contained in the 'Gold Book'?
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 7:09 pm

I'm niot sure this is much help... It's been a while since I had one. I know someone who is still a member... I'll see if he has one I can look at.

Pasted from the GWRRA website:

•Gold Book Service Directory - You’re never alone when you carry your Gold Book. Participating Members listed by state to assist you with lodging, tools, directions, or just fellowship.


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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 7:59 pm

I don't have a truck or anything, but if anyone is riding through middle TN and needs a tow I'll happily come out and loan you my AAA card.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 10:14 pm

Wow. Gone for a day and theres a whole thread on it! Good!
First off, a rescue list is very simple, theres no membership, or publishing, or anything like that.

"I would be interested in any ideas or suggestions how we could setup a Rescue List while protecting each member's private information"

Everyone who has a truck, or trailer, and is willing to rescue a downed rider has to share their phone number, usually in a pm or email or whatever. If your one of the above, list your name where you are, how far out your able to go get someone, people pm you or text for your number, and then put it in there cell phone, taa daa, you got it now!

"I would be interested in this idea. I think the key is to use a PM to contact others in areas where you will be traveling. I'm sure others have been members of these type of lists and can give us their opinions of the pluses and minuses. Like all things the devil is in the details."

True. But a rescue list like this is very loosely put together. It involves only the members of the forum, like this one. Not anyone who goes down anywhere in a given area. Its like this
"hey if anyone needs themselves and there bike dragged out of a ditch, call me"

"As a member that just went through a situation that this list would have come in handy. Not necessarily to come pick me up, but just to point me to a repair shop. I called a friend back home to look on the PC to help me.
I believe most if not all members of this forum would be anxious to help someone broke down in our neighborhood."

You have it exactly!
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2011 10:35 pm

Rules of rescue.
Rescuers
Dont put your name in the hat if you aren't going to actually help someone.
If you ask for money, your an a-hole. If someone offers it, well thats a good thing!
If you are unable to rescue someone, help find someone who can.

Rescuees

Understand that any given person may not be able to to drop everything and come get you. Its not a moral obligation.
running out of gas is your problem, not a rescue.
same thing for flats. Plan ahead.
Only ask for a rescue when your ride is incapacitated wrecked, or absolutely wont be going anywhere with being hauled.


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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 11, 2011 4:53 pm

I have not forgotten about this. I thought it might be helpful to provide an update on the "investigation".

The software for the forum has the ability to create Open Groups ... which means that each member can decide if they want to join each Open Group themselves.

To demonstrate if you go to the blue bar above and click "Groups" then a new "Join a Group" page will appear. On the "Join a Group
Which group would you like to join ?" click the pulldown to the right ... click on "Open Group example" then click on "View Information" then a new "Group Information" page will appear. If you click "Join Group", then a request will be sent to a moderator who will have to approve your request.

If you look further down the page you will see a "PM" button for the group which would allow a member to send a "PM" to group".

We could create an Open Group for specific regions. Each regional Open Group would have their own forum section which will only be visible when you join a regional Open Group. In the forum you could post pertinent information ( Suggested service centers, Contact information if you choose, Travel problems ).

If have access to the internet or a "remote" phone buddy who does have access to the internet and regional Open Group ... they could PM the group for assistance.

I would be very interested in any thoughts or suggestions on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 11, 2011 8:04 pm

That still seems to complicated and more like a travel guide. This is how we've done our recsue list. Its worked perfectly for 10 years now.

https://www.silverwing600.com/t3312-this-is-a-recue-list#30170
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 11, 2011 11:57 pm

Tagg wrote:
That still seems to complicated
The Open Groups would prevent search engines, anonymous guests or spammers from reading/caching any private date/information ( Address, phone or contact information if posted).

There were several goals I was trying to achieve

1) Protection and sensitivity to private information

2) Ability to communicate in emergency situations

The regional Open Group PM would allow the ability to communicate without publicizing private contact information while still allowing a broad yet regional coverage.

3) Ability to communicate in non-emergency situations

The regional Open Group PM forum would allow the ability to communicate to a regional groups for more proactive or permanent repository.
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PostSubject: Re: Rescue List Discussion   Rescue List Discussion I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 12, 2011 8:15 am

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