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PostSubject: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue May 24, 2011 9:19 pm

I went for a short ride (25miles) on the new Suzuki Burgham 2011 650cc. last week. All I can say is WOW. It was very smooth.

The transmission was like silk and has a push button manual trans (if you don't want the automatic) 6 speed.

Push button windshield is fantastic and the seat a little wider than the S/W. But for $11,000 plus? I think I will continue to add accessories to my 2008 and just be happy with what I have.


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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue May 24, 2011 9:27 pm

Hi john123,

From what I hear, the WOW factor kicks in when a person takes it in for service. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue May 24, 2011 11:09 pm

DennisB wrote:
From what I hear, the WOW factor kicks in when a person takes it in for service. affraid

I was worried how you were doing with the latest storms and tornadoes, then I read your post and had a good laugh rolling laughter ... thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed May 25, 2011 12:51 am

Is this Burgham 650 a newie!!!! alien beamed up

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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed May 25, 2011 2:48 am

john123 wrote:
I went for a short ride (25miles) on the new Suzuki Burgham 2011 650cc. last week. All I can say is WOW. It was very smooth.

The transmission was like silk and has a push button manual trans (if you don't want the automatic) 6 speed.

Push button windshield is fantastic and the seat a little wider than the S/W.

The most important thing to know is did you get 'the Burgman Grin', that overused and irritating phrase much loved by the Burgman community. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed May 25, 2011 5:56 am

Waspie wrote:
Is this Burgham 650 a newie!!!!

Waspie detected the one thing along with Meldrew's observation that really get notice on my part about the Burgman following.

My advice to Burgman owners - learn to actually spell 'Burgman' (it's not bergman). And, gosh I guess it's a sad existance if the only way to get a grin is to ride a specfic machine.

It may be a great bike, but I don't have the obnoxious quotient necessary to own one. I recognize this is possibly a quirk on my part, but I really have noticed how a scooter or bike ride/club quickly gets labeled a 'Bergman ride' or 'Bergman club' by the 'following'. Now the disclaimer - I've also met some very nice people who happen to ride Burgman scooters, but the characteristic seems predominate.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed May 25, 2011 6:20 am

I have the Silverwing 'smirk'!

I spent the past few days riding in company with good friends, all of whom ride Burgers - a ratio of 7-1 over my Silverwing.

They did seem to spend an awful lot of time discussing problems with their bikes.

Some (good-natured) crack was made about mine being the only non-Burger to which my response was,
"Burgers? Common as muck!' Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed May 25, 2011 7:24 am

I get that same vibe from Glock owners. It's prevalent enough to notice. Obviously there are polite, friendly owners, but there is a large portion of the population that views it as "there's us intelligent Glock owners (because obviously nothing compares), and then there's the poor fools who shoot some other brand".
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 9:59 am

Its the height for one. I can flat foot my Burgman 400 s just like my Silverwing. the 400 is alot more agile though at around town. too bad there isn't a 400 Honda....
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 10:18 am

tubeck wrote:
Its the height for one. I can flat foot my Burgman 400 s just like my Silverwing. the 400 is alot more agile though at around town. too bad there isn't a 400 Honda....


Hey - Hey - Hey, Burgman spelt correctly.

tubeck you really need to change the spelling of Burgman in your sig!!!!! Wink dealwithit

And Yes, there is a 400 Silver Wing. However it may not be available in your country! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 1:00 pm

On buying a Burgman----I rode both the 400 and 650, bought the 400.....it got traded on SilverWing.

Downside for me on 650 Burgman---uses a lot of gas, complicated trans and drive, heavy-----but plus is Electric Windshield and ABS on Only model featured in US now.
Old design.
I don't care about image/clubs/groups. Jan-Feb 12 I will get new scooter--SilverWing with ABS fine....$1500 cheaper than Burgman 650....400 Burgman is about $1500 cheaper than SilverWing...and has 4 way flashers.

To me...I like scooters...they are still putt putts.....no matter how much noise they make.

My take ----you have to own one to really know it. TMAX Yamaha, I had one. Great until you want or have to fix it.

All of the Japanese scooters and Kymco are pretty good......wonder about new Vespas? and their 6,000 mile belt changes.

Big displacement scooters are not sub for motorcycle and they remain attractive....until they break.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 1:05 pm

I saw where BMW is developing a large displacement scooter
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 1:23 pm

jdeereanton wrote:

but I really have noticed how a scooter or bike ride/club quickly gets labeled a 'Bergman ride' or 'Bergman club' by the 'following'. Now the disclaimer - I've also met some very nice people who happen to ride Burgman scooters, but the characteristic seems predominate.

Ironic when you consider that is the same condescension and exclusion Burgman owners often complain about Harley riders doing.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 2:39 pm

tubeck wrote:
I saw where BMW is developing a large displacement scooter

Beware on this one Tubeck, there is a very good designer out there in the interweb world who has designed a "prototype" BMW scoot. It is literally that - a design. Albeit very good!

That said. I did also hear that BMW were in the process of testing a large engined scooter. Details sparse though.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 6:09 pm

Here's a first look at BMW's new scoot.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/789/8340/Motorcycle-Article/BMW-Concept-C-Scooter-First-Look.aspx

And here's confirmation that they actually ARE building it. In fact, they're building three different scooters. Two combustion engine and one electric.

http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2011/scooters/bmw/bmw-confirms-maxi-scooters-25698

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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 7:31 pm

The burgman 650 is an attractive machine until you need to replace the CVT drive belt. That's when the silverwing becomes very attractive.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 8:19 pm

Very nice - but that windshield looks pretty suspect for controlling airflow. I'm sure if it's priced right, they'll sell a ton of these

Chris

Somerled wrote:
Here's a first look at BMW's new scoot.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/789/8340/Motorcycle-Article/BMW-Concept-C-Scooter-First-Look.aspx

And here's confirmation that they actually ARE building it. In fact, they're building three different scooters. Two combustion engine and one electric.

http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2011/scooters/bmw/bmw-confirms-maxi-scooters-25698

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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2011 10:33 pm

Yippee! Bigger wheels. I hope it sets a trend. (I want a Scooter that is an off-road / highway crossover.)

BMW is never priced right.

It does not look as comfee as a Burgman or Silverwing. I find BMW bikes I sat on are not all that comfee.

I rode a Burgman at the Carlisle bike show this summer and found it was very comfortable. At 60+ mph it was nice to raise the adjustable windshield but lower it at lower speed for a cooling breeze. The seat was very wide so my fat butt was happy and I had more leg room than on my Silverwing. On the other hand it felt "bigger" and harder to maneuver in slow turns. Overall the Burgy is a little more "luxurious" while the Swing is more maneuverable. I think the Burgy would be more comfortable on the highway on long trips. The Swing really lets me toss it around in twisties.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 13, 2011 1:02 pm

I agree with Ishkatan. Short of getting a Burgman 400, (got it) a Silverwing (got one), and a Burgman 650 (don't got one, but thinking about it, although my wife would not be happy) the Silverwing is the best all around choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 13, 2011 7:43 pm

I was told Burgman 650 doesn't require drive belt replacement
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 13, 2011 7:56 pm

john grinsel wrote:
I was told Burgman 650 doesn't require drive belt replacement

Just the whole trany, a very poor history,so that is why I bought a SW,the Burg 400 was a close 2nd for me...... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 13, 2011 9:13 pm

john grinsel wrote:
I was told Burgman 650 doesn't require drive belt replacement

As I recall ( from several years ago ) the Burgman 650 belt was good for the lifetime of the Burgman 650.

Suzuki defined the lifetime as 16,000 miles.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 21, 2011 6:29 pm

If you want to know what is involved with replacing the belt on a B650 look here

http://maxi-scoots.com/scoot/index.php?topic=2668.0

while the author of the post makes it sound simple, it still seems to be taking him 20 hours or so to do the job. I feel comfortable replacing the belt or roller in the Silverwing, but would never attempt doing as much work as it takes to work on the B650.
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PostSubject: Re: Burgham 650   Burgham 650 I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 21, 2011 7:14 pm

I've got both the Burgman 400 and the Silverwing 600 so I'm grinning on both sides of my face! cheers
Just want some half decent weather so I can ride one of them.

(Fitted LED bulbs ( stop / tail ) on the SilverWing today, very impressed with their performance (in the garage that is!)

Cheers,
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