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PostSubject: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 1:11 am

I have been vacillating about what to do about my noisy stock screen for more than a year now (does that mean I'm getting used to it?). Anyhow, my preferred options are:

  1. Fit a Clearview Sport Screen (only 10" high); or
  2. Fit a Laminar Lip to the stock screen.

I am not keen on having a screen that I have to look through.

Here is a picture of the Sport Screen:

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The Clearview website says the scooter belongs to Robert of
Scottsdale, AZ; if Robert is a member of this forum or if there is any other owner out there who has fitted a Sport Screen then I would appreciate hearing your views about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 1:31 am

Leaves me wondering tho Pete, watcha gonna do about all that salt spray in your eyes?
BTW,dont forget the ace bars or the rear sets!
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 5:57 am

OWWWW!! Meow What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 6:59 am

The Givi AF214 two section adjustable screen is excellent.
The top section can be adjusted up or down, within seconds, to suit general conditions / personal preferences / weather & journey types / looking through or not looking through e.g. might want to keep screen at a higher level on long fast motorway journeys, a cold day or lower on slower winding roads on a warm day etc etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 7:26 am

pja,

If noise is the issue I'd suggest the AF214 (GIVI AirFlow) screen. It seems to offer all the advantages of the Laminar Lip, but with easier fine tuning and adjustment, albeit at some expense. It also gives you the luxury of being able to remove the adjustable part giving a shorter, (not as short as the Clearview sport), but not as tall as the stock.

A plus to going with the AF214 - you would have the stock screen available to you and you could cut it down to the 10" size.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 9:57 am

I bought a Laminar Lip ready to fit when the Silverwing arrived but I wasn't as happy with it on the Wing as I'd been with the one on my X9.....which is why I bouught the Givi AirFlow - full marks to it.

Darek has the Laminar Ears as well as the Lip - I think he's happy with the set-up but you'd have to ask him.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 10:26 am

I agree with Bigbird. The sport screen pictured in your original post is similar to the very short stock screen on my Yamaha Morphous. Riding around town, in stop and go traffic, it was fine and there was no need for a change. The light air flow was quite pleasant.

When speeds climb above 35 MPH, which includes at least 80% of my current riding, the wind buffeting quickly became bothersome and I went with a taller, aftermarket screen. For my Silver Wing, the Airflow windscreen looks like the way to go as it can be short if I want it that way for some reason. Sometimes I miss having a short screen.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 2:13 pm

Of course that photo could be the result of clumsily trying to cut down a regular sized screen at home, and getting it badly wrong!

I noticed an awful lot of Harley riders with similar home disasters when I was on holiday in Florida in November. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 6:15 pm

bigbird wrote:
I can tell you right now, just by looking at that sport screen, if you do any highway driving your head will be buffeted like a rag doll in the wind.

But surely no more than a power ranger on his rice rocket!!!

A friend of mine feels uncomfortable if he hasn't the wind blasting the jacket and helmet of his leathers!!!! (He is weird) Laughing Laughing Laughing

Must admit I like the look of the Black Wing withthe sport screen. Not for me - as I'm a certified 'Wuss' but looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 7:40 pm

Meldrew wrote:
Of course that photo could be the result of clumsily trying to cut down a regular sized screen at home, and getting it badly wrong!

Meldrew,

That screen is the one that Clearview sell! I guess I didn't see it as a "home made" job.

To those who worry about wind buffeting, my previous ride was a Honda CB900F (919 in the USA) and I don't mind being out in the wind; I will admit that its nice being behind a big screen in torrential rain but that doesn't happen very often. The rest of the time I like the feel of the wind.

The Givi AF214 is VERY expensive in Australia and IMHO not worth the money asked. I have just come across the MRA Vario screen (a variation on the Laminar Lip)

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and by way of an example

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This sells for AUD149, about AUD30 cheaper than the Laminar Lip. Compared to the LL it requires holes drilled in the original screen but is adjustable after being installed. This looks like a good option. I read a review by an owner of a Piaggio X8 and he raved about how well it worked.

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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 7:54 pm

pja wrote:
... I have just come across the MRA Vario screen (a variation on the Laminar Lip).

Here is a picture of the MRA Vario fitted to a SilverWing:

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Here is another image (fitted to a Suzuki DL-650)

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I found a dealer in Oz who has these for AUD125 or Twisted Throttle will deliver to Oz for USD112 (which is probably AUD95 Twisted Evil given the value of the US Paesso).

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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 21, 2011 2:31 am

Hi Peter,

There is an alternative way to mount a MRA Vario Spoiler that requires no drilling of the screen. It's basically a couple of inverted U clamps that you screw the spoiler onto. You then push the clamps over the top of the screen and tighten up a couple of bolts.

Your MRA dealer or Twisted Throttle will have them in stock.

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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 21, 2011 7:37 am

Oh, excellent call on the MRA Vario. I had noted that product some time ago and forgot about it. That is really a slick solution.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 21, 2011 8:44 am

I suspect I am more affected by the wind coming round the sides of the screen.
The stock screen doesn't seem wide enough either actually or aerodynamically.

Will putting any kind of spoiler on the top alone do the trick?

I think the aerodynamics of the AirFlow (and others, probably) spreads the side blast wider, making the screen seem wider.
As I said, I think the Laminar Ears indicate that that is a way the problem is eased.
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PostSubject: Re: Some advice on a screen change   Some advice on a screen change I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 21, 2011 10:47 am

I have Laminars Ears in my junk box,used them with just stock windshield and then in conjunction with Lip......maybe some improvement on hands. Should be bolted on, at least to windshield.

Basic problem in SilverWing and other scooters, except Vespa is as I have said before, you are too far from tip of Windshield @18-24 in is where problem lies.

Right now I have the Adjustable Givi with added Laminar Lip that may have added a couple of mph to the comfort zone ......but still after 65 mph it gets miserable-noise, buffeting.The Givi in lower position works better at slower speeds than anything I have tried on the SilverWing.

MadStad in FL uses another approach for still air----change angle of attack. So far nothing from him for SilverWing. MRA attachment might do same thing.

Windshields that work should be standard.



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