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PostSubject: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 5:22 pm

I usually do two whencops present and the no feet balancing then floor it to regain balance
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tankyuong wrote:
I usually do two whencops present and the no feet balancing then floor it to regain balance

Most times ... no feet.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 7:40 pm

Usually two feet, but I always feel a little off balance just before I come to a complete stop, so I've been trying to see if committing to one side and just using that foot helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 7:58 pm

Here in Oklahoma, they will give you a citation for not stopping if a rider does not put at lest one foot on the ground at stop signs. I always look both ways at a stop signs, #1 for on coming traffic #2 the police. The Police out in Califorina were much more strict with the traffic laws. Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? Suspect A rider really needed to watch their stops out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 9:19 pm

No feet. No need. The new Danson Trike makes feet down totally unneeded. Before the trike, usually no feet -- had a lot of experience with observed trials that I have not completely forgotten. Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? Icon_farao
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 10:22 pm

bigbird wrote:
How in the world can you STOP with no feet down?

bigbird wrote:
You can't unless you're some kind of tight rope walker.

When I was younger and rode bicycles with strapped in old style cleats, I trained myself to be able to balance and stop in place.

The SWing wider darkside tire also helps to balance easier.

If the terrain is uphill or uneven, I will put my feet down without attempting to balance. Once in a while, you may need to put both feet down even if you balance for awhile ... so it always important to prepare mentally not to delay when need. In the beginning I was a slower to put my feet down when needed a few times.

bigbird wrote:
Rolling through a STOP sign is not STOPPING.

I am not rolling through a STOP.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 10:44 pm

It depends on Road Crown
(The curve built in to most roads to allow the drainage to the sides.)
If the road crown is severe putting down both feet will feel unbalanced.
So I usually put down the left foot which is farthest away from the edge
since we drive on the right side of the road in the USA.
Also I am only 5'6 so I can't flatfoot the bike unless I have very thick
soled boots on, so one foot down is much more comfortable.
I will scooch forward off my seat to put both feet down flat if I need to.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 4:44 am

Yair, A freind of mine had a habit of rolling through stop signs when a local copper pulled him over and asked why he didn't stop. He told the copper that there was nothing coming either way so he didn't see the problem with just rolling through slowly and could not see the need to come to a stop. Next thing my mate knows he is on the ground being mercilessly beaten by the copper with a very quick baton action.

"Help help" he cried "what are you hitting me like that for?" he lamented.

The cop retorted. " So now then, would you like me to just slow down or to just stop?"
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 6:18 am

One foot; touch-and-go.

Don't know what the rules are elsewhere but in Europe vehicles must stop at the red hexagonal STOP signs.
http://www.fairschoolofmotoring.co.uk/images/road_signs/stop%20sign.gif
It is the only sign with this shape.

Elsewhere are triangular GIVE WAY signs that do not require vehicles to stop if the road is clear.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/UK_give_way.PNG

As there are two separate signs......!

If one fails to stop at a STOP sign during the Driving/Riding Test, one fails.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 1:35 pm

2 feet down if complete stop in town. If out in the country and not much traffic, then I do one of those rolling stops and no feet of course.
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All depends on the place I'm stopping at, I do either a rolling stop if thats what you want too call it or put one foot down.At red lights I put both feet down so I can stretch the legs while waiting for it to turn.
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PostSubject: Stop   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 06, 2010 7:19 am

Proper is left foot out and down, right stays on foot board. Few do it.

With right foot brake on motorcycles, that means right foot remains on foot brake. Just good habit.

Scooters/bikes are designed to be ridden feet up. Want to see a bunch of people, putting both feet out, go to GoldWing or HD Rally---looks like paddling convention to me. Lack of skill and practice.

Of course extreme times both need to come out. One foot out pretty much eliminates the 2 feet paddle take off one often sees in US.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign?   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 06, 2010 7:39 am

john grinsel wrote:
Proper is left foot out and down, right stays on foot board. Few do it.

With right foot brake on motorcycles, that means right foot remains on foot brake. Just good habit.
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While I agree that having both brakes available is a good habit when riding a regular motorcycle (or a scooter with one foot-operated brake), that doesn't really apply here; since we have a different brake/clutch set up, a different set of riding skills and habits are needed.

For instance, on the Swing, I wouldn't want to continue the habit of pulling in [what used to be] the clutch lever every time I thought the engine RMP had reached the point where I would shift - that would cause some problems and be dangerous.

The beauty and advantage of this set up is that is gives the operator more options when responding to different road/stopping conditions (e.g., road crown, as dspevack pointed out).
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Except for stopping at a STOP sign (as I said in a previous post) I always put both feet down when coming to a halt.
It's more relaxed than having to support the bike with both hands and one leg.
The weight of the bike is taken on the wheels while I provide the balance.
I can safely take one or even both hands off the bars and I feel comfortable - most important.
As for the 'triangles' business so often quoted by motorcyclists, with both feet down I make two.
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PostSubject: stopping   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 06, 2010 9:21 am

I find that there is always a tendency to be less than careful when riding. I try to make complete stops as a kind of way of reminding myself to take it slow, not rush, and be safe. One or two feet for me, and when I don't I try to do it next time. dan
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PostSubject: stop   Do you stop with one,two,or no feet down at stop sign? I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 11, 2010 5:07 pm

Whether big scooter or bike----basic rules are are same---scooters now have hand brakes---I believe there was legal issue in the 80's over scooters and hand brakes---thus Helix had foot brake for rear.

I prefer foot brake---not linked---as rear brake is great balancing aid in slow speed work. Do it with linked brakes and of course front comes on and it could screw you up


As to 2 feet down---fine for some conditions---but one works best. Practice. Passenger needs to be trained not to move around and should be lighter than you. One foot down, the quicker you have both feet up----scooter is designed to be ridden feet up---leg and foot input is necessary for proper control----got them out they are not helping control, they are just props.
Earlier comment by bigbird on looking thru shield----ever tried snow storm/sleet/fog/riding into sunset with buggy screen/night? Seeing where you are going and maybe going to hit super important----2 wheel different than car. Cars don't fall over. Looking over shield was law in Germany.....I don't know for sure if it if EU wide now.

I do ride with people passenger----many of my miles have been with bike/scooter loaded heavy but not over limit so extra caution required. Bike/scooter has been used for business travel in Europe/Japan/Korea/US. I don't care for cars. Moose my dog, has as passenger, has been as far as Central America/Asia/North America---Givi box with hole in top or bag in foot well of scooter. Dog presents special problem as they don't hang on to you with knees and hands around waist like a human passenger should. Their movement has to be compensated for.

Ending: to ride properly and safely----requires practice and practice.

John Grinsel
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