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john grinsel Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 3322 Age : 85 Points : 9489 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: 85 and new bike second on experience Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:46 pm | |
| Got new bike at 85--- Honda Super Cub 125---2023, left over, not cheap in US.
1. having had c-70 (too slow for US traffic) and C-90 in Japan that I liked, big luggage rack, front basket, bike never broke bought new but rusted quick. 2. New C-125 fuel injected-starts and idles nice---can be jerky on low speed operation with auto clutch....need watching....C-90 with carb much easier to control! 3. US Model = decontent---no side stand, or luggage rack. [i]have side stand, Givi rack, fancy box from China-works great and st 55 liter carries plenty---Threw my old Givi E-46 box away, but it worked for at least 500,000 miles and 20 years 4. Interesting Honda changed mirrors to left hand thread---stems not long enough to prevent looking at shoulders. I have a couple sets of old CB750 mirrors I want to use...have proper left /right nuts coming from Dennis Kirk. 5. Performance---pretty good, 50-55 mph easy cruise. 6. Have big sail of wind shield from Italy----note from experience since 1955---big shields on lite bikes make them easy to be blown over in high winds when parked. Mounting this windshield this week end. Puig windshield provide me with strong blast of air in face.....which I do not need! 7.Cub require much more skill to ride smoothly than auto scooter-----do not like heel shifter. 8. tele fork....I prefer leading links.
9. Of course, gas tank too small As I am not planing on croaking---have return to Hyder Alaska and James Bay Road on Quebec for next |
| | | GHM-PM Site Admin
Number of posts : 2632 Age : 72 Location : Bullhead City, AZ Points : 7535 Registration date : 2012-05-17
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:55 am | |
| Congratulations John! Sounds like quite a find. A trip to Hyder on it? WOW. I'd like to go with you! |
| | | john grinsel Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 3322 Age : 85 Points : 9489 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:57 am | |
| New windshield from Italy arrived and installed,,,like most Italian windshields at first look too high...But riding behind it really calm and not noisy! Think I will leave it alone and ride, learning to look thru..Maxi scooters ...in past 30 years have had 8 new ones and at least 400,000 miles---long rides, buffeting always severe problem-----think I like this calm----Scooters, Givi adjustable best on Silverwing, work on Suzuki Burgman 400, too----I believe SuperScooter buffetig caused by design----your nose is too far from tip of screen. 1958 I discovered BMW twin with Heinrich handle bar fairing/legshields/lap blanket provided calm air and some sort of comfort in horrible German weather. |
| | | POCAHONTAS Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 7 Location : Illinois, USA Points : 93 Registration date : 2024-09-14
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:38 pm | |
| The tall Givi I fitted to my 2007 Burgman 400 is very quiet and has no buffeting. I got used to looking through it. However, I got caught in rain twice and it was difficult to see through the raindrops that accumulated on the screen. An early morning fog was even worse. I got a spray-on product by Rain-X suitable for plastic screens but have not got to try it out yet. I recently bought a 2004 Silver Wing which has its original screen. It is noisy wearing a Bell Mag-9 open-face helmet but not too bad when wearing a Nolan flip-up helmet the seller included in the deal. I'm considering fitting an adjustable Givi Airflow when funds allow. |
| | | Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4222 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9463 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:15 am | |
| Too tall screens are a problem, looking through them is fine in daylight and maybe cuts down on the wind noise if you're not wearing earplugs.
Thr problems start when it rains and there's a build up of droplets on the screen, or on country or costal roads where you're going to ge that mist of road crud thrown up by car and truck wheels. It's downright hazardous at night with headlight glare and distortion from micro scratches on the screen.
There used to be quite a bit of debate on maxi forums about too tall screens and cutting a few inches off them. You do this, tape that, cut it using this hacksaw blade, smooth the edge with something or other grade emery paper etc. Yeah right! How many cracked or broken screens were the result of these efforts of these home bodged attempts were never admitted.
The best part of 20 years ago I fitted a taller Biondi screen to a 2005 Burgman 400 and like a lot of Italian screens it was a couple of inches taller than I'd have liked. It wasn't a problem in daylight and good weather and rather than ride trying to see through it in rain or at night or breaking it in a bodged attempt at cutting it down, I solved the problem without cutting the screen.
I have an Airhawk seat cushion, it's a decent piece of kit but it's something I rarely use. So all I did was using the cushion at a template cut out two or three pieces from an old closed cell foam insulation camping mat and slip them inside the Airhawk cover. It made me a bit taller and solved the problem. When I didn't need it I just kept thr Airhawk under the seat.
Rain-X got a mention too, a product much hyped by the British weekly bike comics when it first came out. I bought some and have never been convinced by its claims. After the Burgman 400 I had a Burgman 600 for a couple of years. During that time I spent a long weekend on it over in Northern Ireland.
Having been over to 'Norn Iron' previously on BMW's and MZ’s I was used to the fine rain they get over there, small droplets that don't clear off your visor like normal rain, you're constantly wiping your visor.
So as part of my preparation I dug out the Rain-X and treated the Burgmans screen (another tall screen I'd fitted) and my visor the day before I set off. Sure enough the next day it started raining within a few hours of getting off the ferry in Larne and was continuous for the next couple of days. The Rain-X on my screen was very effective for the first couple of hours then the coating wore off. Luckily I could raise or lower the electric screen, you can't do that peering through a too tall dirty screen
The screen and the rest of the Burgman got absolutely filthy after that, thanks to the rain and sand blown onto the County Antrim coast roads. I barely got out of my rain gear while I was there. The constant fine rain even got inside one of the Burgmans headlamp reflectors and took a few weeks to clear. So much for Rain-X, I never used the stuff again.
I have yet another Givi tall screen fitted to my Forza and being electrically adjustable height it isn't a problem, in fact it's ideal and a lot better than the Givi Airflow I had on my Silver Wing.
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| | | john grinsel Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 3322 Age : 85 Points : 9489 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:50 am | |
| First as rider for 70 years,million and a half miles----I realize looking thru windshield on bike in bad weather is very dangerous period period. My intention at this point is not to do much foul weather riding. 25 years in Germany was enough, plus rainy season in Japan! Night riding not much too, although my nite vision is still good.
Looking over, Heinrch fairngs work, Avon on my Truimph 6T ok, Vespas with rite Windshield can work,well too---Harley with Winter Windshield kit, fine----but a lot of dirt sucked on your back.
Right now use "protect all" on on shield---expensive, will go back to Lemon Pledge, cheaper.when finished. Hard to figure out how much money I have wasted on trying to be comfortable over the years.
Japan, Asahi with canvas lowers worked very well on various bikes, and cheap, too. Still avallable! |
| | | POCAHONTAS Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 7 Location : Illinois, USA Points : 93 Registration date : 2024-09-14
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:05 pm | |
| I am reminded of the best weather protection I have ever used on a powered two-wheeler. It was a Craven Cutter handlebar fairing on my 1978 Honda CX500. Yes, Meldrew, it warded off some of that Northern Ireland weather. |
| | | john grinsel Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 3322 Age : 85 Points : 9489 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:23 pm | |
| Adding---new super cub 125---got new windshield from Italy, nice mounting set up---able to mount 2 CB750 mirrors, right hand threads...so I do not have to view shoulders riding down the road! Tried riding a few days looking thru windshield....not fun and dangerous if weather turns!- Today cut shield about 6 inches and now can see safely over----ride down road is quiet...handling not effected, no buffeting as windshield is close to face on short coupled bike---ear plugs needed now?---New Open face helmet, old long bill visor, even can ride into sun! Still waiting for front basket and carrier from thailand, With top box, center carrier and when basket comes, can safety go to WalMart on weekly run....and have safe carrying room---by now I have spent enough money that I could have purchased new PCX Scooter with Givi rack and windshield-----PCX probably faster. but harder to work on, expensive drive belt replacement, complicated valve adjustment... lots of plastic to take off and get back on. Super Cub has $10-20 dollars chain. |
| | | GHM-PM Site Admin
Number of posts : 2632 Age : 72 Location : Bullhead City, AZ Points : 7535 Registration date : 2012-05-17
| Subject: Re: 85 and new bike second on experience Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:11 am | |
| John, sounds like you are making progress with the new ride! Have fun and keep us posted? |
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