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PostSubject: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 5:25 pm

Apparently, Sym wants to play with the big boys at Honda and Suzuki. Kymco better hurry up and roll out that My Road 700. This one sure looks interesting!

http://future-motorcycles.com/2010-sym-maxsym/
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 04, 2010 6:27 pm

I for one would consider a Sym. Especially a big engined machine.

Used to own a Sym Shark, 125 when I started out and a most reliable and friendly scooter if ever I had one.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 9:43 am

another Burgman copy
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 9:59 am

tankyuong wrote:
another Burgman copy

And?
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 12:26 pm

Looks like a nice ride. SYM needed something beyond 250cc.
They and Yamaha are using the ceramic lined cylinders, lasts long and keeps friction down.

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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 6:54 pm

wes_ingram wrote:
Looks like a nice ride. SYM needed something beyond 250cc. They and Yamaha are using the ceramic lined cylinders, lasts long and keeps friction down.

That is the first time I heard this ... are all of the SYM ceramic lined cylinders? How much longer does the ceramic lined cylinders last?
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 06, 2010 3:15 pm

honda_silver wrote:
wes_ingram wrote:
Looks like a nice ride. SYM needed something beyond 250cc. They and Yamaha are using the ceramic lined cylinders, lasts long and keeps friction down.

That is the first time I heard this ... are all of the SYM ceramic lined cylinders? How much longer does the ceramic lined cylinders last?

I was informed my Sym shark had a ceramic head not lining, I could be wrong.

I put some 28,000km on it. When I part exchanged it, a garage fitter took it on and he rode it for a further 4 years then sold it on.

Whatever they do, they seem to have some longevity.

The overall build was equal to Honda I would say. In fact many of the parts were Honda!

All in all very good machines for the money, highly rated by the dealers in the UK.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 07, 2010 4:49 pm

Bill,
I've not seen any stats on the increase in longevity, but most of the SYM engines have the
ceramic liners and Yamaha uses this on some of its V twins and the TMAX engine.

BTW, SYM resisted a take over by Honda a year or two back. SYM was building CRV's for Honda. I also saw where SYM and KYMCO build scoots and bikes for some of the Japanese builders. Sorry I can't remember where I saw this info. Getting old, gray matter short circuit.

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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2010 1:21 pm

I found a youtube link with many nice pics of the Maxsym from the EICMA show in Italy. It is reminiscent of the larger Burgman but I see some difference in styling. I am having a hard time finding any specific technical details so it is hard to compare features when no info is available for comparision. The things I've been reading about Sym however suggest that the company makes quality products much like Kymco. I remember that only a few short years ago that Kymco was trying to overcome the cheap chinese knock-off repuatation. Now, many Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki Powesprots dealers have incorporated the Kymco brand into their lineup and we've learned that the Kymco scooters can hold their own. It'll be fun to watch how the Sym brand develops and evolves as they begin to bring product into the U.S. Here is that link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMQx-pB_8E
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 12, 2010 2:25 am

It would be nice to see this new Maxi in action. I hope they give it some more leg room than on their other models. Its been the only thing that stopped me from considering them when I went looking for a scoot. Luckily I found my Swing.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 12, 2010 6:52 pm

It's good to see the 400 also has two cylinders. That's one thing I didn't like about the Burgman 400, it didn't feel as smooth as the 650 or the SW. Be interesting to see the prices on these scoots.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 5:00 am

exavid wrote:
It's good to see the 400 also has two cylinders. That's one thing I didn't like about the Burgman 400, it didn't feel as smooth as the 650 or the SW. Be interesting to see the prices on these scoots.

I agree about the 2 cylinder Burgman 400. 2 pots would have really set it above all others of that size. I dare say if a Burgman 2 pot 400 was about when I was looking at replacing it I would have bought another.

As it is, no regrets on upgrading to the Silver Wing.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 10:23 pm

My first introduction to maxi-scooters was a Bergy 650. I was highly impressed. I never expected a scooter to go like that. I ended up buying a SW and never felt a lack of performance either. One of the things I like about the SW is that it's a good bit simpler than the B650 which makes it easier for me to maintain. I never take my bikes to a shop, just don't like to pay for what I can do myself and the SW is a lot less complex. While you might have to replace the belt now and then it's a lot cheaper than if something goes wrong with the B650's internal belt which runs over $2k to have a shop replace, as I was told by a B650 owner who had one replaced.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 14, 2010 12:19 am

exavid wrote:
My first introduction to maxi-scooters was a Bergy 650. I was highly impressed. I never expected a scooter to go like that. I ended up buying a SW and never felt a lack of performance either. One of the things I like about the SW is that it's a good bit simpler than the B650 which makes it easier for me to maintain. I never take my bikes to a shop, just don't like to pay for what I can do myself and the SW is a lot less complex.

Same reason why I love the SWing ... and I plan to keep my SWing for long long time.

exavid wrote:
While you might have to replace the belt now and then
it's a lot cheaper than if something goes wrong with the B650's
internal belt which runs over $2k to have a shop replace, as I was told
by a B650 owner who had one replaced.

I still read the www.burgmanusa.com forum ... I notice how much deeper technical expertise is required/discussed for the Burgman 650 versus the SWing.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 14, 2010 11:16 am

I like the maintenance simplicity of the SilverWing. I'm not a fan of the Burgman for very personal reasons. I don't have the need to remind every one that I have the biggest (fill in the blank) there is, so I don't feel the need to own a Burgman.

I like the SYM's and look forward to seeing many more of them on the road.
A guy we ride with occasionally (and on PGR rides) rides a SYM. Very nice bike and no trouble with maintenance.
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PostSubject: Re: New Maxi Scooter   New Maxi Scooter I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 15, 2010 12:47 pm

www.scootermaxi.com has some info on the new SYM and a picture.
No availability dates yet, just some info for the 600 and 400 models.
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