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john grinsel
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PostSubject: Add in to changing last Scooter Tire   Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:31 pm

The rear tire I mounted last week or so....developed slow leak.

Checked tire for nail/screws=nothing

Changed valve core 2 or 3 times to find one that sealed.  Soapy water test, ok now

Then did more soapy water tests at base of special Honda Part number, H rated $11   valve stem----small bubbles around base, let air out of tire, rotated stem a little and wiggled, aired up tire again, checked for bubbles=ok  BUT real fix is to  remove wheel, break down tire, replace valve stem----Probably $80 job if you pay somebody.....because of mickey mouse involved with rear wheel removal.

Will work on this next week-----maybe can break bead with wheel on bike....and get inside to push new stem thru.

Current stem has been in use less than 6 months. I think older SilverWings may have or are going to have rear valve stem problems as the rubber parts age.   i got rid of the original stem at about 40,000 miles and replaced with straight one....making checking pressure/filling tire from left side easier.

Leak developing early is probably just a fluke?
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PostSubject: Re: Add in to changing last Scooter Tire   Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:09 pm

Jeez, Mr Grinsel, if you would have had a Darkside tire and an Ariete valve stem you wouldn't have had these problems Rolling Eyes

Actually the Ariete valves bolt on from the inside and can be mounted for a left side fill.

http://www.ariete.com/en/catalog/road/valvole/

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: Add in to changing last Scooter Tire   Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:23 pm

I go around corners---why would I want car tire?---beside bike and car wheel have different beads---there is SAE paper on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Add in to changing last Scooter Tire   Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:33 am

Do yourself a favour and upgrade to a metal valve. Also check the bead of the tyre for leaks - that has been the culprit of a slow leak for me in the past.
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PostSubject: Re: Add in to changing last Scooter Tire   Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:00 pm

Got rubber valve sealed: I see no or have no interest in spending more money on bike that is ending its time with me.

Tip here: At near 50,000 miles my 2013, has had 5 or 6 rear tires---next to last dealer installed. I take care to wire brush/clean bead area on rim----dealers usually don't---this time spent time to really clean rim bead....so no leaks at bead. Use soapy water as lube to seat bead-- then mount on my balance stand to make sure bead is seated all around....and tire round....AND I ended up with leaky stem....should have changed it, even though it had been in service short time.

I use "Ride On" as balance medium and have for several years=works well for me and as my tires stay in balance thruout their life, seem to get more miles out of them.---I am fairly experienced with mc tires having used up something like 450 in 62 years of riding, most self installed, tube or tubeless. Real problem with Maxi-scooter like SilverWing---mickey mouse involved in rear wheel removal., stiff sidewalls of some tires.
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