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MartinG
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PostSubject: New Member   Wed 09 Nov 2016, 15:10

I have recently bought my first Silverwing 600. I have been riding regular bikes ( Diversion 600, Fazer 600, Viarago 1100 etc) up to about 5 years ago when I bought my first scooter which was a Burgman 250. I have had 2 of them and love them to bits. I tried a Burgie 400 but found that the 250 was a better bike but I still wanted more power. So I tried a Burgman 650 which is a fantastic scooter imop but as I am a short arse I was having problems when I put my feet down especially on poor surfaces. So as the Silverwing has the power and a lower seat height it suits me perfectly. I picked it up in England and rode it home to the west of Ireland last weekend. All went well except it developed a bad vibration in the fairing/dash when the clutch engages but is ok once on the move. I have ordered a touring screen and hope to sort out the vibration during the installation of that. I was dissapointed to find there is no Haynes manual for the machine. What do people do here for technical info?
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Wed 09 Nov 2016, 15:33

Hiya

Welcome to the forum. Not long on myself but have found everyone to be helpful and always willing to offer advice and information.
As for the manual, yes must agree it's a shame that there is not a Haynes manual for the SW. There are workshop manuals available to download on line and owners manual available to download for free. There are also loads of videos online which cover a multitude of things so you never end up scratching your head.
You can clean the clutch up by applying the back brake, rev the engine to about 4000 for 5 secs and it usually makes the operation smooth again.
Enjoy the forum.   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Wed 09 Nov 2016, 15:37

Hello, Martin. Welcome to the forum. Lots of good information and good folks here to help.

Best bet to find a Factory Service Manual (FSM) on eBay. However a member here recently posted that he has a downloadable FSM as a pdf file available. You can probably find that by using the Search function.

You don't mention what year your S'Wing is or how many miles are on it, but those rattles could be nothing more than the clutch needing to be deglazed, or some broken tupperware tabs creating loose body panels --or a combination of both.

Broken tabs, cracks? Plast-Aid if your friend.

Tim

[Edit] Kennylxix is the member offering the FSM pdf.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Wed 09 Nov 2016, 15:50

It's a 2009 with 27k miles. Thks for the replies.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Wed 09 Nov 2016, 16:51

MartinG...Welcome to the forum. We look forward to your posts and photos.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Wed 09 Nov 2016, 22:18

Welcome MartinG to the best SWing site on the net!

I had a similar vibration on take off. One of the members suggested holding the left brake tightly and revving it up to around 4,000 rpm for about 15 seconds. I did that and the vibration ceased. It must have burned the glaze off the clutch.

I have an 08 SWing which I like a lot.

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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 02:20

Dale N. wrote:
Welcome MartinG to the best SWing site on the net!

I had a similar vibration on take off. One of the members suggested holding the left brake tightly and revving it up to around 4,000 rpm for about 15 seconds. I did that and the vibration ceased. It must have burned the glaze off the clutch.

I have an 08 SWing which I like a lot.



Dale,
I hope that was a type-o. . Fifteen seconds is too long. You should hold the throttle for about four seconds at 4000 RPM. There will be some smoke and strong burning smell.

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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 05:30

Dale N. wrote:
Welcome MartinG to the best SWing site on the net!

I had a similar vibration on take off. One of the members suggested holding the left brake tightly and revving it up to around 4,000 rpm for about 15 seconds. I did that and the vibration ceased. It must have burned the glaze off the clutch.

I have an 08 SWing which I like a lot.


Thanks for the advice about the clutch but the vibration is in the fairing and dash at the front. I see white beading in the picture joining the fromt fairing to the dash. Is that an extra. Where can it be got.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 06:35

Hi Martin and welcome to the forum.
I wouldn't worry about the clutch. People often say it needs 'deglazing' but, in my experience, it's often just some dust from the belt that has got in there and melted on the linings making them a bit tacky and grabby.
A few 'spirited' take offs now and then usually cleans the linings up and cures it when mine does it but - as has been mentioned, holding the brakes and giving the engine a bit of a rev also works. Doing an occasional 'lively' pull away usually stops it recurring.

Good luck and enjoy - it's a great scooter.

Edit: I just saw your last post where you say the vibration is in the fairing - yeah, mine does that sometimes. I must get around to taking the plastics off one day to get to the bottom of it.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 09:31

Welcome aboard from o-HI-o.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 10:02

Hello Martin. Welcome aboard.
I got my 09 swing in August. Had the same vibration you mention.
So I worked up the nerve to pull the clutch out and sand the pads and inner clutch drum.
Made a huge difference.
It is actually an easy job. Also gives you a chance to check your belt and clean things up.
There are help files in the pictorial section.

Enjoy your new ride.
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 10:46

Welcome Martin
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 15:18




welcome welcome welcome
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 16:01

Welcome to the vibrating fairing club.
Don't worry, just ride :-)
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 17:04

steve_h80 wrote:
Welcome to the vibrating fairing club.
Don't worry, just ride :-)
Thanks, but everybody else thinks I'm talking about the clutch even though I wrote it was in the fairing/dash!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: New Member   Thu 10 Nov 2016, 17:47

Hi Martin and welcome to the forum. I got my SWing a few months ago and it has some vibration in the plastics.

My clutch does judder slightly sometimes and that manifests itself as rattling in the fairing area. I don't want to overheat/blue the clutch bell, so I just do spirited take-offs from the lights regularly. Most modern vehicles, including cars, benefit from an "Italian Tune-Up" (rev it to the redline in the gears and thrash it at speed a bit) on a regular basis.

I found my handlebar plastics had some broken tabs and the speedo/instrument panel vibrates quite a bit. Down the nearside, the fairing was coming away from the dash as it had been dropped and the main tabs and screw are missing just ahead of the glove box.

So, yes the plastic rattles because the clutch/drive/engine vibrate. It seems quite common and just work through it bit by bit as I'm doing.
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