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PostSubject: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:05 am

My Silverwing is a 2005 with 20,000kms "on the clock"; and I'd like to install a means of flashing all 4 signal lights together... ie.: a 4 way flasher modification. This is my first point of looking into this. Someone must have done this already, or maybe Honda have added this on newer models. Please offer comments and suggestions on the best way to approach this and if you have already done it.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:21 am

I think I found my answer through a post of similar nature from Dupe Winger back in June of 2010.

Further comments appreciated however. I should have searched the site before posting my question.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:40 am

Not on newer models---mine 2013. Burgman 400 has 4 way stock and I miss it.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:45 pm

Here is a link to the Singapore Bikes Forum article on converting the existing turn signals to 4-way flashers. Note that Option 3 adds an additional relay to the circuit which also allows the 4-ways to be turned on when the ignition is in the OFF position --a good feature to have if you are along side the road waiting for help: http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/325894-lt-Info-gt-Silverwing-400cc-600cc-Tech-Corner/page4

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:56 pm

Thanks Tim !

A wealth of info from that link.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:37 pm

When looking at option 3, why would I need a relay if I am getting power for my switch before the ignition switch? As I see it, option 3 allows the four way flashing to operate with the ignition off. The relay would always be in the NO state passing power to the switch. I like the idea and may try it.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:43 pm

Option 3 is a simplified illustration. The 2nd relay substitutes for the stock relay, which is an integral part of the Combination Meter board and therefore is only powered when the ignition is ON.. The 2nd relay allows the 4-ways to flash with the ignition OFF. The 2nd relay is an off-the-shelf 4 terminal relay and is wired in the traditional manner. I hope this makes sense.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:00 pm

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
Option 3 is a simplified illustration. The 2nd relay substitutes for the stock relay, which is an integral part of the Combination Meter board and therefore is only powered when the ignition is ON.. The 2nd relay allows the 4-ways to flash with the ignition OFF. The 2nd relay is an off-the-shelf 4 terminal relay and is wired in the traditional manner. I hope this makes sense.

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Tim,
I thought that relays are electronic switches and need power to turn a circuit. I am thinking that the relay could be eliminated in the option 3 diagram. What would happen if I eliminated the relay? I am sorry, but I do not have great knowledge about electronics.

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Anyone out there know the answer to my question? Can I use a switch to apply power to right and left turn signal circuits?

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:09 pm

Easyrider wrote:
Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
Option 3 is a simplified illustration. The 2nd relay substitutes for the stock relay, which is an integral part of the Combination Meter board and therefore is only powered when the ignition is ON.. The 2nd relay allows the 4-ways to flash with the ignition OFF. The 2nd relay is an off-the-shelf 4 terminal relay and is wired in the traditional manner. I hope this makes sense.

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Tim,
I thought that relays are electronic switches and need power to turn a circuit. I am thinking that the relay could be eliminated in the option 3 diagram. What would happen if I eliminated the relay? I am sorry, but I do not have great knowledge about electronics.

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Anyone out there know the answer to my question? Can I use a switch to apply power to right and left turn signal circuits?

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:10 am

Options 1 & 2 eliminate the optional 2nd relay in favor of using "a switch" and the internal relay of the Combination Meter. Unfortunately that means that the only way the 4-ways will operate is if the ignition is ON AND the turn signal switch ON as well. Wiring that Option 3 relay allows the 4-ways to operate with the ignition OFF and is not dependent on the turn signal switch being ON either.

Yes, that Option 3 relay does need to be powered by the battery as well, however because it is a simplified illustration it doesn't doesn't show that. Check out a couple of the other posts on that Singapore Bikes Forum page for information on wiring relays --or google 'how to wire a relay'.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:13 am

Tim,
In the opt3 diagram, is the second relay really a "flasher relay"? I thought that just by connecting to the right and l eft turn signal circuits that somehow the lights would flash.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:35 am

I just keep picturing a relay race, like they have at track and field events, populated entirely by men wearing loose-belted trench coats with nothing on underneath....a flasher relay! rolling laughter
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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:44 pm

Easyrider wrote:
Tim,
In the opt3 diagram, is the second relay really a "flasher relay"? I thought that just by connecting to the right and l eft turn signal circuits that somehow the lights would flash.

Yes, by just connecting the Orange & Light Blue wires while activating the turn signal switch to either position will allow all 4 turn signal switches to flash --as long as the ignition switch is ON.

Yes, the second relay is a "turn signal flasher relay".

See the link below for a wiring diagram for a flasher relay. In this example the dash light wire at terminal "C" can be ignored because it's not needed. While the switch shown at terminal "49a" will be the switch shown in the Option 3 circuit.

http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/12v-universal-electronic-flasher-hazard-relay-21wx2-5w.html#

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PostSubject: Re: 4 way flasher   Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:05 am

Thanks Tim. Gave you a THANKS! Will follow up when I complete the mod.
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