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forkthem2002
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:02 pm

I am new to this form, but don't think I fooling. But I just changed my Final drive oil. I stopped when it started to run back out. I put the plug back in and road off. Why try to over fill it. Didn't Honda figure that part out for you. Do you guys over fill you oil all so is this some Silver Wing thing. How often do you change the final drive oil. Do I go by the book. Thanks Tony the C.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:43 pm

GHM-PM wrote:

"Um, just a question.  If you fill the final drive until oil weeps out the filler hole...how do you overfill it?"

I saw someone fill the final drive with a squeeze bottle like you see in a restaurant with a tube that fit snug in the filler hole. When he pulled the tube out oil came running out. He could have put the plug in before it drained down level to the fill hole. If the oil was foamy wouldn't it have gotten foamy even if it was not overfull?
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:54 pm

I think this has gotten WAY too complicated for such a simple operation... No 
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:15 am

You could always measure the exact amount of recommended oil it takes to fill the final drive; 230 mL IIRC, or just fill it very slowly with the squeeze bottle or pump until oil just starts to ooze out of the filler plug hole. Then let the excess drip out for a few minutes and your level should be perfect. Just make sure the bike is on the centre stand, and is level. I have run both hypoid gear oil and engine oil in mine, and never did I get any foaming.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:39 am

Hey Jeff. Thanks for the PM. I can receive PM's but the admin has prevented me from sending them. If you could unlock that, then I can respond. I'm not sure how or why I've been reinstated, but it appears I have been.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:53 am

bigbird wrote:
Hey Jeff. Thanks for the PM. I can receive PM's but the admin has prevented me from sending them. If you could unlock that, then I can respond. I'm not sure how or why I've been reinstated, but it appears I have been.
Evidently the rest of us peons aren't allowed to PM you Terry, but, Holy Crap!, it's nice to see you back.

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:11 pm

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:

Evidently the rest of us peons aren't allowed to PM you Terry, but, Holy Crap!, it's nice to see you back.

Tim
Hey, thanks Tim.
Maybe a hiatus was the best thing that could have happened to all parties concerned.
Since the demise of that other forum, which is another story altogether, I feel the need to help Swing owners again if I can.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:39 pm

Hello bigbird,

Welcome back, I'd kill the fatted calf if I had one! Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:42 pm

bigbird wrote:
I feel the need to help Swing owners again if I can.
Yes you can! And welcome back Bigbird. I was amazed to see your post that it was not 'X'!
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:56 pm

Meldrew wrote:
Hello bigbird,

Welcome back, I'd kill the fatted calf if I had one! Smile 
Thank you Meldrew. I don't know how or why my account was unlocked, no one contacted me, I just tried to log in, and presto!
If my account remains unlocked I will try and contribute, of course with an attempt at humour injection where possible. I won't fall into the trap of allowing myself to be baited again, despite my affection for fishing. As stated before, I'll leave it up to JeffR to be the expert at placing his minnow on the hook Laughing

It appears my ability to send pm's has returned, so I'll leave this topic back to where it's supposed to be, final drive oil.

Thanks guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:04 pm

Be sure to wait a LONG time for the overfill to drain out. Not sure if it hurts to have a bit more than necessary in the tranny - but I always wait for it to drain out. Like Bigbird - I measure what I put in and add a little so some has to drain out.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:41 pm

A bit too much oil in the final drive gears won't hurt. No need for it but it won't hurt. Hypoid gear oil is what's called for and in 80/90 weight if I remember right. Not critical. I use a oil pump can I bought inexpensively at Harbor Freight. Just stick a thin piece of vinyl tubing on the snout and measure the amount of oil into the pump can. You want a piece of tubing thin enough so that it doesn't block air from getting out as you pump oil in.

http://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-flexible-spout-oil-can-1113.html

I use a lot of Harbor Freight's odd stuff, I'm not pushing their business but it's a very handy place for inexpensive tools that are sufficient for most non-professional use.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:37 pm

exavid wrote:
Hypoid gear oil is what's called for and in 80/90 weight if I remember right. Not critical.
Actually engine oil is called for in the owner and shop manuals for the final drive, not hypoid. The reason is supposedly that hypoid contains materials that will degrade the seals, engine oil does not.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:03 pm

Yep, you're right. Was apparently thinking about the GW. Too many vehicles around here. I looked in my book and see that I used DELO 400 which is what I use in most everything around here from the Ford Triton V10 to the lawnmower.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:29 pm

exavid wrote:
Yep, you're right. Was apparently thinking about the GW. Too many vehicles around here. I looked in my book and see that I used DELO 400 which is what I use in most everything around here from the Ford Triton V10 to the lawnmower.
Sorry to be off topic here but I just bought an F350 Triton V10.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:46 pm

One thing I have noticed is if I change oil and filter I have just the right amount of oil left to change the final drive. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:37 am

Welcome back bigbird your articles will be gratefully received, i always think a little controversy is a very helpful aid to encourage all ideas to come to the fore, long live free speech and a pox on political correctness. By god i feel better having got that off my chest. pip pip.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:41 pm

drewsieboy wrote:
Welcome back bigbird your articles will be gratefully received, i always think a little controversy is a very helpful aid to encourage all ideas to come to the fore, long live free speech and a pox on political correctness. By god i feel better having got that off my chest. pip pip.

Thank you drewsieboy. I appreciate the vote of confidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:57 pm

Nice to see you back Terry.
Looking forward to your help on all technical matters.
You are a valuable asset to this discussion board.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Drive Oil   Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:54 pm

old fart wrote:
Nice to see you back Terry.
Looking forward to your help on all technical matters.
You are a valuable asset to this discussion board.

Thanks, fart.
Go Jets Go this Tuesday, at the Oiler's expense. cheers 
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