Spent sometimes reading the owner's manual of my 2008 Swing. Not able to find the recommended oil, the changing intervals, and the quantity required for the final drive.

I understand this question may have been asked a lot. But this poor soul really wanted to know. Thank you.

Here's a tutorial from the other Silverwing site.

I have no reason to doubt the facts but use it at your own risk!

http://silverwing.org/mwf/attach/85/25485/FinalDriveOilChange.pdf

Hi,

I did that Pictorial and it is on this site too. Just make sure you rotate the tire after you drain the oil. I forgot to put that in the Pictorial when I did it. You will be able to get some more oil out of the bike too.

Sorry Jeff I should have checked for availability on here first.

Thank you Jeff,

So either gear oil or engine oil will work? How come I could not find anything in the owner's manual? Strange.

The reason it's not mentioned in the owners manual is because Honda doesn't want YOU doing it. They want you to take it to the stealership for this simple operation.

I only found out about changing the final drive oil after I got on the Silverwing.org forum. Luckily, it was just about 2 years since I got the swing, when it was due to be changed.

How many miles on the meter? What did you used? Gear oil or motor oil?
Got my 2008 last week. 2310 miles on the meter. The previous owner was able to provide receipt for oil and oil filter change. Not the final drive oil change. So I am thinking about changing the final drive oil in the next couple days. Any info will be really appreciated.

Cornishman,

I think I may start a totally seperate topic for "Pictorials" only. That way they will be easier to find for those that want to use them. We have others that have provided pictures and instructions so we could start a library that way. I was looking around for them just to see how easy they are to find here and it isn't as easy as I hoped, when I started the seperate topics when this forum was new. So I think I will do that.

Good idea Jeff, I think that's a winner.

Bob

One more question (sorry ). Now I am pretty confidence to do this SIMPLE project. I have the oil, have the long nose oil can. Now, some said that those 2 washers better to be replaced in the process. I would like to do that if I could. Anybody knows the exact size, and kind.
I tried to get info from the online OEM parts fiche without success. Can the regular 8MM washer from the Home Depot or Lowe's do the trick? Thanks.

If you're careful in removing the washers, I don't think you need to replace them every time you change the final drive oil.
Same with the rubber o ring when you change the engine oil, it's good for several changes before you need to replace it.

Final Drive Oil Recommended By Honda:

Recently bought a new 2009 Silverwing.

Page 3-16 or the 2002-2009 Service Manual calls for Pro Honda GN$ 4-stroke oil or equivalent

API service classification SG or higher.

JASO T903 Standard: MA

Viscosity 10W-30.

This information is repeated on Page 3-2 of this same manual.

Jim from Stanwood, WA

You don't want to use gear oil unless actual hypoid gears are involved, but I have no idea what's inside there.

I'd suggest 10w30 synthetic.

I use a synthetic 75W-90 gear oil. The service manual suggests good old Honda 10W-30 engine oil which supposedly has a JASO MA rating. Since we're only dealing with GEARS here, and not combustion, I'll continue using a GEAR oil.

I have a opinion that Honda did the 10w30 motor oil recommendation, for people that may not have gear oil available.
But they do have that little extra motor oil left from changing the engine oil. it only takes like 3-4 oz. to do the tranny. And we all have that much left after an oil change on the engine.
What do you think????

MaxB (who is thinking too much)

Another one of my 'For what it's worth' comments...

I had a 1988 Honda Accord with a manual transmission. You were supposed to replace the transmission oil every 30k miles. Guess what the replacement recommendation was? 10W-30 motor oil... the same stuff that went into the crankcase. I put in 10W-30 Synthetic oil (Mobile 1), and it stayed in there for the balance of 200,000 miles. Never had a problem, and that was the smoothest shifting transmission I ever had.

I don't think that the service manual recommendation for the final drive oil is an accident.

I use Honda 30 oil in my final drive it is a 2005 as recommended in the service book. I have changed mine two times and just turned 16000 miles. To fill mine I use a bottle made of nylon plastic material like you dispense catsup or mustard. It holds a cup and one half when full...
Old Dave

I use Amsoil (synthetic; that's all they make) 10-40 and a pump type oil can. Seems to work alright.

First, hi everybody from Spain (EUROPE).I have a SW400 (I think in EEUU SW only 600).AT the Spanish SW400 2006 owner manual (european I think)recommended 10w40 synthetic oil:
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Hi Everyone,

Been reading the final drive oil recommendation thread with great interest.

I am going to perform this task very soon, can someone tell me please the amount of 10w-30 oil needed?

Just keeping filling it until it starts to seep out of the hole where you fill it with oil. The amount is 10oz but just keep filling it up until it drips out.

Many thanks Jeff.

I have a few pictures in my motorcycle album showing the Oil holes with the plastic covers off.
https://picasaweb.google.com/Safier/Motorcycles#

I had a level check question but it was answered by the link that appeared earlier but I just saw. I'm in cluding it because it is so useful
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