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 How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?

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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:20 pm

Getting it of the center stand is easy using the sit on and rock method, getting it up on the center stand takes a little more effort if your a light weight like me.
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:40 pm

Someone on the other board cut their centerstand down.
Now it sits on both wheels and the centerstand.

Makes it easier to put on the stand because it doesn't require the bike to move upward as much.

Makes it easier to take off the stand because some of the pressure is already on the tire.

If he wants to do some work on the bike, he simply puts a thick piece of wood under the stand, and presto its back to normal.

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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:44 pm

I can see some problems with that. The bike wouldn't be as stable if the ground wasn't perfectly flat and level. It would make it more difficult to check tire pressure if you didn't carry that piece of wood with you. It definitely would lower the resale value too. I can't see why anyone would do that when the Silverwing is easy to get on the center stand any way. One thing that makes it hard for some people to put a bike on the center stand is that they don't have the bike level. It's critically important to have both feet of the stand in contact with the ground before you start raising the bike.
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:28 pm

Sorry, I have to disagree with the stability statement, the stand would still be the same width regardless so would not affect stability unless you cut it too short. Resale value is practically a non issue. Off topic a bit, I know an old friend that left the Okanagan to move back to Medford Oregon back in 2008.
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:41 pm

At the current height of the stand the bike is on the two feet and one wheel, a total of 3 contact points.
With a shortened stand you increase the contact points to 4. Definitely more stable.
I also cannot see it affecting resale value.

You don't need to check tire pressure while on a center stand.

The ease with which the center stand can be used depends significantly on the individual.


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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:21 am

Think about it. A four legged chair or a three legged stool. Now sit them both on slightly uneven ground. Which one won't wobble?
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:28 am

A Silverwing on a regular centerstand is more like a four legged chair with two of the legs off center and a third leg significantly shorter than the others.

While the centerstand legs may be equal, and most of the weight may be on the front tire, it still has the capability to rock to the back tire (short leg).

But even so your analogy falls apart because both the front and rear tire are essentially on (springs/coils/shocks). with four points of contact, two firm (the stand) and two flexible, and providing more equal pressure than if one was completely out of contact with the ground, the stability increases.

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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:02 pm

Neither analogy is totally accurate, mine nor yours. That being said anything that takes weight off the center stand feet reduces the lateral stability of the bike. If the front and rear tire are both bearing any weight the center stand's ability to resist side loads on the bike is weakened. If the rear tire is only touching the ground lightly the loss of stability would be negligible but if the surface the bike was parked on was a bit concave then the loss of stability could be greater. In real life it probably won't make much difference either way but it is diverting to consider the possibilities.
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:46 pm

I enjoyed our diversion.

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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:57 am

You guys are debating something as trivial as a persons preference? I get on the bike, rock it and it rolls onto it's wheels. Now if I am pointed out I actually gas it first then rock back, that is always fun. you are gone the second that wheel touches.
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:12 am

Welcome to the debate.
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PostSubject: Re: How Do You Take Your SilverWing Off Of the Center Stand?   Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:58 pm

Atlanticfun wrote:
You guys are debating something as trivial as a persons preference? I get on the bike, rock it and it rolls onto it's wheels. Now if I am pointed out I actually gas it first then rock back, that is always fun. you are gone the second that wheel touches.


Jato rockets also make you "gone the second the wheel touches" too.

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