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PostSubject: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:30 pm

Only the second post for this member since introducing myself last year. I have a question concerning the clutch outer (sometimes referred to as the clutch bell) installation tool as shown on page 10-20 of the Honda service manual. Pulling the clutch outer is no problem with Honda's puller 07ZMC-MCTA100 as shown on page 10-10, but my question concerns the installation tool shown on page 10-20.

It appears that the installation tool is made up of three separate pieces, the "Assembly Collar" 07ZMF-MCT0100 (USA only), the "Threaded Shaft" 07931-ME4010B and the "Special Nut" 07931-HB3020A. If this is correct, the cost of the complete assembly tool would be over $192.00 US dollars (thru Partzilla). Is this correct, are all three pieces necessary to make up the compete installation tool?

I have oil leaking from the rear drive, dripping from the bottom of the plastic cover, and have determined that neither the rear drive drain or fill plug are leaking (new sealing washers installed yesterday and both still dry as a bone). That makes the oil seal behind the clutch outer suspect. Easy job to replace the seal if I had the correct tools, but this could be a mighty expensive tool - and I refuse to do any hammering. I absolutely will not take it to my local Honda dealer, I've seen there service department. The young kid working there actually told me "yea, I think I've worked on one of those before".

Does anyone have particular knowledge of the installation tool in question and what must be ordered to make up the complete tool. You help would be very much appreciated. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:15 pm

I've used a 1 1/2 diameter piece of PVC (cut to an appropriate length), a stack of big washers and the original clutch nut. The PVC will just fit over the clutch bell threads so they wont get damaged. Put a washer or two on the shaft, run the nut up tight, remove the nut, add a few more washers then put the nut on again. Repeat as necessary until the clutch bell clears the snap ring groove in the shaft. You may have to use some means to stop the PVC from turning --I used a pipe wrench. HTH

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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:28 pm

Thanks Tim, sounds like a lot less expensive way to go. I'll give it a try. I'd still like to know about the Honda tool however. Thanks again Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Oops, I posted a reply to Dimonds "Driven Pulley Rebuild" earlier today in. error. It gives two YouTube links to videos about a version of that clutch bell tool you're inquiring about. Check it out. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to copy/paste that post to this thread. HTH

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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:16 pm

If you have a lathe the Italian SW forum may be of help .... http://www.silverwing400.it/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=87&Itemid=83
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:38 pm

Swing13 wrote:
Thanks Tim, sounds like a lot less expensive way to go.  I'll give it a try.  I'd still like to know about the Honda tool however.  Thanks again  Smile

Dan

I've got that tool sitting in my basement. It's brand new still in the Honda plastic bag. I don't need it. The part # is 07ZMC-MCTA100
New they're $100 and up from any Honda online parts store. Ebay, they're $70 used.
I can do $50 US and you pay the shipping. And I'll throw in a set (front, rear, and parking) of brand new organic compound EBC disc brake pads (Made in England) for your Swing as well.
The part #'s for the pads are SFA281, SFA196, and SFA257/2. Is that not a deal?
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:40 pm

Hi Bigbird, I am very interested in the clutch tool and pads. I will PM you. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:47 pm

Dimond wrote:
Hi Bigbird,  I am very interested in the clutch tool and pads.  I will PM you.  Thanks!

You're now third in line. However the second person after Swing13 has made a commitment to buy the goodies. I'm waiting to hear from Swing13.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:42 pm

Just my luck, I logged on at 3:00 pm then went on to read other forums. I come back at 9:30 only to find out I'm six hours too late. Put me at number four if everyone else drops out bigbird. Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:09 pm

Sleep .....aw you know the rest. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:25 am

According to a site in the UK (David Silver spares) using the stated part number, the tool has now been discontinued and is not available.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:49 am

For Europe the part number is different bud, 07ZMF-MCT0100
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:42 am

Bit pricy at £103 though!
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch Outer Installation Tool   Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:59 am

bigbird wrote:
Dimond wrote:
Hi Bigbird,  I am very interested in the clutch tool and pads.  I will PM you.  Thanks!

You're now third in line. However the second person after Swing13 has made a commitment to buy the goodies. I'm waiting to hear from Swing13.

I wonder why he needs the tool, he's just bought a new 2013 Silver Wing? scratch
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PostSubject: Sold   Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:51 pm

bigbird wrote:


I've got that tool sitting in my basement. It's brand new still in the Honda plastic bag. I don't need it. The part # is 07ZMC-MCTA100
New they're $100 and up from any Honda online parts store. Ebay, they're $70 used.
I can do $50 US and you pay the shipping. And I'll throw in a set (front, rear, and parking) of brand new organic compound EBC disc brake pads (Made in England) for your Swing as well.
The part #'s for the pads are SFA281, SFA196, and SFA257/2. Is that not a deal?

Sold to a nice man in the Bay area.
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