It sounds like your insurance company sucks

Dennis, unfortunately it's all-too-often the case; they seem only interested in grabbing the premiums and hanging on to them, come what may.

Dennis... you feeling OK? Sounds like you may be a little edgy after the weekend. I know I am. You be careful with the kick stand thing. I know what the folks are saying. IT CAN be dangerous. Doesn't matter if the insurance pays or not if your brains are scattered all over the Tulsa freeway. I haven't done any deep scientific study or anything, but it seems like the stand on the Swing is lower than the stand was on the only other bike I ever owned back in the late 60s. At my age, I can appreciate the safety feature. I also can say that I would like to start the scoot up sometimes and let it idle while on the kick stand. All I am saying is just be careful. I would sure miss you... but if something happens ... I want your shop.
Gary

Gary,

Beleave it or not I did have a 1984 Yamaha Verago that had a kick stand lock out and sold the bike shortly. I'm very used to having the kick stand old style. But some of you new riders need to maintain that lock out for now.

I already used it in traffic, at a stop light. I thought I had ran over someting and needed to check my front tire. So while stopped I put my kick stand down, got off the scooter while it was running and walked to the front to look at my tire. It looked good. I was on my way in a flash and never had to restart the scooter. It works for me.

What's really weird is when the spring on the kick stand brakes while your riding. This happened to me once on my 59 PanHead in 1992.

Great! Just don't forget what I said about the shop!!!!
:thank you:
Gary

I will be disabling my stand switch shortly and as with my last scoot, wiring a a switch on the dash to turn it on and off as it is a real pain when going in and out of gates. I would also like to warm up the engine with the lower winter temperatures at the moment. The primary reason for the switch is to stop people revving the engine and the Swing taking off while no one is on it. If this is a problem just place a bit of 2inch plastic water pipe over the throttle assy and apply the handbrake for safety. Like Dennis, I know when I need something or not.
The one on my bike only cuts the engine if the stand is down and a gear is selected.

Hi All,

I've been getty a load of PM's On how to do this. One thing I need for you NOT to do is cut any wires. Here's a picture of the 1/4" blade type connector to use over the 2 pins (this connects the two pins). Make darn sure it fits tight on the pins and does not come off with a small amount of tugging. Then wrap it electrical tape to keep it safe and prevent contact with any ground points.

Well Dumbo me I cut the wire on the kick stand side about 2 inches from the connector and taped the two wires together and attached it to securely to the frame with a tie. The other end from the kickstand side I tape it up but not the two wires together and secured it to the frame with tie wrap. I think it is really secure and it works. I couldn't fine a connector that fix right either two big or small and to me it would vibrate off and then engine would no run or start. I really didn't want to cut but it looked like to me it would hold better than a connector that didn' fit right. If you think this could hurt something I will order a new connector switch from Honda and put back on. Thanks

That's it....I give up.

Don't give up Dennis... I had a little trouble getting the front panel tabs loose, so, I borrowed my neighbors chain saw and cut a little below where they clip together... did I do wrong? If I did, I will trade in my Beautiful Silverwing for a Tonka truck I saw on the internet yesterday. It has sirens and it makes a noise when I push it...

I will take pictures when I get my new camera... until then, use your imagination.

Gary

Don't give up on account of me. I only did what I thought would work. I am serious about if you think that It will cause trouble I would order the connector and replace it.

This is one of those things (and there is NOT to many on the scooter mod list) that needs to changed back when you (some day) deside sell your scooter. Permently cutting any wiring on the scooters original harness is a BIG NO, NO and should be avoided at all cost. The way I explained it was easy, cheep, and quik to-do and un-do.

Now....If you ever need more information on how to get something done or more information on how to install other accessories just ask Gary (Opalsboy) but don't just start to shotgun through the project.

Taking care, your time, and being armed with a good sence of what needs to be done....These are the best tools and the first tools in any ones toolbox.

I don't know which I like to smell better in the morning... shotgun powder or chainsaw oil... but reading and following the instructions always works for me.

Gary

Glad you didn't give up Dennis ...

Dennis I appreciate the information that you took the time to send to me and apologize to you. I respect you opinion and would like to know that you wouldn't just write me off. I couldn't get a connector to fit and got over zealous and did what I though was acceptable to do. I know that anytime you disable a safety device you have to be careful. I would never sell my Swing with the switch disabled and not tell the potential buyer about it. In fact I am going to call my Honda Dealer an order a new switch and I will replace it way before I try to sell my Swing.

I respect your

If you need the information out of the Honda Service manual, I can scan the pages and post them for you.

DennisB

The primary reason for the switch is to stop people revving the engine and the Swing taking off while no one is on it.

Actually the reason for the sidestand switch is to prevent someone from riding off with the stand down. There have been many people, and one fatality I know of, that have been injured by forgetting to retract the side stand. If you are inadvertently riding with the stand down and turn left it's very possible to have the rear wheel of the bike lifted off the pave ment as the bike tries to pole vault on the stand. Nearly guaranteed to drop the bike usually high siding it. Most modern motorcycles have the switch to prevent this type accident. On motorcycles the switch is set up so you can run the engine on the sidestand but not put it into gear. Normally it's in series with the neutral light, no neutral light, raise the stand and the engine quits. This doesn't work with a CVT since there's no neutral so it simply prevents the engine from being operated with the stand down.

I have only 16,000 miles on my S/W and the only problem I have had in the middle of no where, was the switch stooped working all together, when I pulled over to do some adjustments. At the time I had about 11,000 mil.

It was a humbling experience being stuck on the side of he freeway, with the hot wind blowing and my cell phone down to less than 20% but I had the switch replaced and still use it.