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tankyuong
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PostSubject: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 am

Just replaced the final drive oil today, used a syringe, didnt work too well rode one day, then headed to harbor freight and got an oil dispenser that had a lengthened metal tip started squirting 100x then oil finally started overflowing from underneath, I thought I filled it up the first time with the syringe but guess not since the syringe didnt fit too well in the hole.
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:43 am

Hi,

I have not replaced the oil in my final drive gear as of yet on my 2008 but I was thinking of using one of those big plactic turkey baseters and a short piece of rubber hose attached to the end as a way to get the oil installed when the time comes.

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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:24 pm

Get a lube pump like this:

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/56208?&cid=chanintel&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=56208

This particular one is for a marine application, but I think I have seen them at auto parts stores, maybe even Walmart. You would need to cut the fitting of the end of the tubing - or just get a length of vinyl tubing the same diameter, long enough to reach into your final drive fill opening. Measure out the right amount of lube into a small container (plus a little extra to allow for what will be left over in the pump. Easy, No mess, no fuss.
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:55 pm

Just go to Wally World and get one of those oil squirt cans that has the pump on the handle. It holds just about the right amount of oil, and fits in the hole with no problems. Takes 10 minutes to change the final drive oil.
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:23 pm

Wendell,

An oil squirt can...now that sounds right. Is that the one where it has the brass twist closer on the end? cheers What's the cost of the squirt can at Wal-Mart?
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:18 pm

DennisB wrote:
Wendell,

An oil squirt can...now that sounds right. Is that the one where it has the brass twist closer on the end? cheers What's the cost of the squirt can at Wal-Mart?

Dennis, I think that's the one. It looks like a regular oil can, but the spout is long and thin, and it has a pump as part of the handle. I'm not sure what it cost, but it was just a few bucks.

Wendell

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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:24 pm

I got one - a little oil can with the pump handle and extended tube with brass tip, just right for this job - recently at Pep Boys (auto parts store) for around $8 I think. Surprising how hard it was to find one of these oil cans. I looked in at least 4 different stores, including WalMart, KMart, AutoZone etc. No one had it. Finally Pep Boys had ONE on the shelf - with a warning to use gloves or wash your hands or something because it's painted with lead paint. It's always something.

The right tool however made the job a snap, while a lot of posters seem to have a lot of trouble doing this neatly.
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:07 pm

If you look at the Pictorial I made you can see the oil can I bought at Harbor Freight for about $5. It worked great for me.

http://www.4shared.com4shared.com/file/85165640/c304d9e6/Changing_the_Final_Drive_Oil_Pictorial.html

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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:50 pm

Thanks Guys,

Next time I go to the Harbor Freight I'll will pick one these up and leave the Turkey Baseter in the Kitchen for the Turkey if I ever cook one. What a Face

DennisB


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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:47 am

I down loaded JeffR's pictorial on installing an air filter & changed the filter last week with no problems. The pictorial made the job a breeze.
Thanks Jeff

Also down loaded the pictorial on changing the final drive oil. I have all the wrenches. Went to Harbor Freight & bought the oil can.
Noted in the repair manuel to use 10-40 Honda or equal for the replacement oil, but saw you used something different.
What is your view on this?

Ernie
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:36 pm

Ernie,

I'm glad the Pictorials helped for the air filter. As for the oil, I either have used the same oil for the crankcase or the 75-90w gear oil. It is a bit thicker than the 10-40. But you can just use 10-40w of your choice though. Again, this is just my opinion so others may chime in too on their thoughts.

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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:54 pm

I tried buying one from walmart but they didnt have it,so I bought a syringe from there didnt work so the oil can at harbor freight was just right $4
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:05 pm

Everyone has a different method for this so here's mine. I use a clear plastic solvent dispenser bottle and some 1/4" clear tubing. The bottles come in a variety of sizes mostly in the 8-12oz range. The tube is 12"-14" long and one end is cut at an angle (bologna cut), the other end fits perfectly over the nozzle tip of the dispenser bottle. I have marked graduations on the bottle so I can tell how much is is flowing into the final drive. I insert the tube and hold it firmly, the angle cut allows you to insert the tube more fully into the hole. Turn the dispenser bottle upside down and squeeze (gently). The clear bottle allows you to watch your progress and when the bottle is empty you are done. Final fluid = almost 11 ounces (.32l) Sort of a modified turkey baster method. Here is the picture of the bottle. You can get them just about any where from Wally-world to the pharmacy for a couple bucks, here is a picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:05 am

I tried to down load Jeff's pictures on the changing of the final drive oil but all I get is goobly gook wording instead of pictures. Could someone please post a picture of the location of the drain plug and also where to refill. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:28 am

http://www.silverwing600.com/maintenance-tips-and-hints-f7/changing-the-final-drive-oil-pictorial-t200.htm
Try one more time to go to the link in the maintenance section on the forum links. If this still doesn't work, send me a pm with your email and I can email it to you that way. I tried to attach it to a post here but that didn't work. It is a mystery why you are having problem. Link works fine for me.
Gary

try this too... it is the actual file from the link above. You will have to wait about 10 seconds before clicking on "download" then "open" it.

http://www.4shared.com4shared.com/get/85165640/c304d9e6/Changing_the_Final_Drive_Oil_Pictorial.html


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PostSubject: Re: Final drive oil replaced easier with the right tool   Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:53 am

JeffR wrote:
If you look at the Pictorial I made you can see the oil can I bought at Harbor Freight for about $5. It worked great for me.

http://www.4shared.com4shared.com/file/85165640/c304d9e6/Changing_the_Final_Drive_Oil_Pictorial.html


Just finished replacing the final drive oil this morning. With the help of you all especially Jeff's pictorial. Everything went fine. The meter read 2342, oil drained out was kind of dark gray color with few metal bits. I am sure happy that I did not wait till my next oil change. Big thanks to you all.
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