JeffR, You've had the sliders in use for awhile now. How do you feel about them now? Are they better than the stock rollers?

Boatswain,

Yes, I do like them better then the rollers. They are the 28g sliders and I feel they are smoother than the rollers. It seems there is more acceleration up to about 40 or 50, but not a huge difference, but after that it seems the same as the rollers. It also seemed I got a couple of mpg better than the rollers, maybe 2-3 mpg, but then I also have changed my riding habits too, so that may be why. Hope this helps.

I have to believe that the best improvement in in-town fuel economy would be an aftermarket clutch like the HiT or something similar. All that slipping is a waste of power.

Obviously you don't want to get TOO crazy, but Honda has obviously set up the stock clutch to be completely idiot-proof. I'd like the OPTION of being an idiot even if I never choose to do it. I really want the clutch to lock up a lot sooner than stock.

The sliders are a great improvement. Part of the reason that the swing does not cruise well and runs at a high RPM is that the stock roller weights do not enable the belt to ride to the top of the pulley which causes higher RPM's. The 28 gram Dr. Pulley Sliders will cause the belt to ride at the top of the pulley which will result in a 400 RPM drop. I was able to verify this by testing when I was in the process of changing the weights. This is a difference of about 5 MPH. So basically, you can now run 65 at the same RPM that you would have run 60 with the stock weights. This will smoothe the bike out a bit and yield slightly better fuel economy on runs over 55 MPH. I am curious as to whether or not anyone has achieved the same 400 RPM drop with the 23 Gram Dr. Pulley Slider weights.

Ron,

I did not measure my RPM, but I agree on the smoothness. The the lag between 40-50 is eliminated and it is one smooth pull all the way through the throttle. The roller-chatter on take off is also gone. I have noticed a small reduction in RPM but having not measured it I can't be sure. My current MPG's have not been adversely affected, still in the mid to upper 50's (58 last tank). The first tankful after the slider install was affected and dropped to 51-52mpg due to many WOT's ...I mean testing!
I am happy with the results, next experiment is to mix two different weights (28g & 22g) alternating them in the slider slots. A friend did this and reports even better performance

I am thinking about installing the 28Gr rollers and HiT clutch.
I need to send Paul a mail for the final go.

I'm pretty convinced about the sliders but not sure on the HiT clutch.
Those that have experience, can you share your insights?
Isn't the HiT cauing a more 'agressive' touch to the throttle?
Might be that I am mistaken, it just looks like you need to be very careful when going WOT, right?
Any advice is appreciated...

I just ordered a new belt and a set of 20gr sliders so I will be experimenting with the sliders. I have the 28 gr and will install the 20 gr when they come in. I will also keep track of the rpm's too. After I use them for about a week I will use a combination of the 2 to see how they work. I really like the sliders so far but I do miss the J. Costa. Talk about fun with the J. Costa..that is really a good mod.

Hi Jeff; looking forward to your findings!

I know this is an old thread, but it seemed to be the best one to add my experience to...

I replaced my belt, final drive oil, and stock rollers a couple of days ago, at 21,000 miles. I bought the bike used from a dealer, and could tell from the other maintenance I've done, that basically nothing has been taken care of as prescribed. "We inspected the belt, it's fine." Yeah, okay.

Anyway, everything went well, thanks to all the hints, tips, and how-to's provided by the fabulous people on this forum. I installed the Dr. Pulley 24gram sliders. Performance-wise, I'm sure it's better, but I don't really ride the scooter like that. I've recently upgraded from smaller scooters, and the SWing has got plenty of performance for me. My rpm's dropped from 5600 @ 70mph indicated, to 5000 @ 70mph indicated. Like everyone else, my 70 indicated is really 65. It is overall a much smoother ride, much less 'buzzy', which is probably attributed to getting rid of the old dirty, somewhat notched rollers. I haven't run through a full tank yet, but it does appear that I will finally get past the 50mpg hump. My previous best tank has been about 43mpg, so that will be a nice improvement.

So now I've done the Givi AirFlow, oil and filter, air filter, spark plugs, final drive oil, belt, and sliders. Tires are good, and air pressure holds well. Now I can enjoy the ride, knowing that maintenance items are up to date, and indeed somewhat upgraded.

Next up, accessories and cosmetics. I'm gonna have to get together with DennisB and pick up one of his GPS mounts. Maybe more...

Not that far away from ya. 14 mile due South on 75. Your welcome to come by any time...Well, not any time. I'll PM my phone number to ya if ya need it.

Yes sir, I figured I would come on down and pick up whatever I wanted to buy, after confirming of course that you and the parts are available!

Installed 28gm rollers 200mile ago, fuel consumption better and take off much smoother

After I read about Dr pulley.I ordered the 28 gram sliders yesterday and I hope will be to my house today because the store at Oregan.I hope I will enjoy with it.Thanks for all information about this.

I will do report after installation and use it.I run 250 mile at this week end with Goldwing people and they realy supprice how much power my wing have.

I did install Dr puller today,did not take me long to install,I made spectial tool to hold pulley work very good,short test drive around the town I realy like it.It very smooth take off and the power very smooth.I will test drive on the free way late.The weather not very good today.I try to show my tool I made to hold the pulley but not work

awesome job!
Cant wait to get mine in!

I did test drive on I-5 ,I got 70 MPH at 5000 rpm,65 MPH at 4500 Rpm,scooter smooth on the road,take off fromt stop light very smooth,better than stock roller.I happy with it.Thank for all the people at this forum.