as controversial, fun, boring, helpful, dreadful and popular as this DARKSIDE subject is....I cannot believe.....there is no darkside section....WTF....I beg of you, I must have a darkside section....i feel a need to get "knee deep in it"......OH BTW....do not buy a Darkside tire....it offers a comfy ride, great value, longevity, controversy and for these things I have experienced I recommend that you Do Not buy one......P.S. i still keep my old IRC in the garage so i can reminisce of pre darkside days :-)

I am having a hard time wearing out my darkside Goldwing. I have 13,000 miles on it and it looks like another 17,000 to go. About 3 times the normal wear of a Goldwing motorcycle tire. That is two tire changes at $325 each.

I am going darkside on my "new to me" Silverwing as soon as I wear out the MT on the back. I need some suggestions for a darkside tire please.

I only want suggestions from people who have run a darkside tire on the Silverwing. And I don't want to know about anyone who is using a darkside tire in the UK, because it is illegal there, and I wouldn't want to promote anything that could harm someone there....

In spite of the evangelistic nature (and zeal/fervor) of those who use a car tire on their motorcycle, the number who actually install a car tire is proportionally minute.

There are quite a few posts and dedicated threads for car tire users. I'd point out that there is no specific section for after market variators either, even though the number of owners who use them if greater than car tire users. And, no I don't have an aftermarket variator on either of the two SilverWings we own.

And I understand that you will feel this is terribly insensitive, but use the search function - you'll find many posts (at least 8 threads not including this one and the UK one) about car tire use.

LARRR.....Im a darksider, i tried it and then started using and it eventually became a habit, now i attend DARKSIDERS ANONYMOUS because im trying to be convinced to go back motorcycle tires....lol....i use the sumitomo just because everyone has had such a good experience with it...only thing i dont like about it....the sidewalls are thin....but its a scooter not a two ton car.

JD....if i cant have a dedicated darkside section.....will you atleast consider a "Break Room" or Water Cooler" section.....lets put fun back into scooter forums :-) ....."But sometimes u get what u need"...is the rest of that quote.....P.S......I grew up in Talladega and i hope u guys still have the wave pool. kinda unfair that our brothers across the pond get their own section but Darksiders will always be on the darkside.

Ok.

So I am not campaigning for a separate section for darksider tires. I just want to use a good car tire on my Silverwing. Sumitomo is the preferred tire for the "few" darksiders? Why? Are there other options? I am a few thousand miles from going darkside, so I have some time.

well larry its good thing u dont want a darkside section....cuz it "aint" gonna happen....any car tire will work if it will fit your rim....u dont want to get one that is too wide or it might scrub the drive train or swing arm....OR....u could just get the sumitomo 165/70-13(think thats the size)....so many have used it without problems.....when u get that tire on the rim and some idiot tells you it wont bead to the rim....kindly take your tire to a car tire shop and have them bead blast it on.....it will mount up.....DONT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER.....to answer your other question...why sumitomo....its a 75,000 mile tire.

"honda_silver... you keep usin' dem der big words and I gonna' have ta' go bye a dikshuneery...

(It's 4 days after turkey day and I just don't have anything better to do right now...)

The force is strong in my Precious, the dark ring call out to her I will try to resist
as long as I can.-----------

I got my tire delivered. Now I need to have it mounted up. I will report back when I do.

It is the little things that keep us all excited. After all, the Silverwing is just a vehicle and a back tire is a back tire. No sense getting all emotional about it.

Just don't tell me that I am crazy for putting a car tire on my scooter.

Saw the title of the thread on latest post and thought it was Easter.

Resurrection!!!!!!!

Sorry bad Christmas joke!!!!!

I vote for a darkside section!!!!!

Meldrew wrote:
" Then don't tell the majority of us about it, I'd say the non-Darksiders don't really want to know and people do get emotional on this subject. You could just as easily PM the other Darksiders and avoid another inevitable argument."

I am not a Darksider but may wish to become one and I may not. If there was a darkside section I could get some information on darksideing without having to read people getting emotional on this subject. How would people know to PM me, and why should they have to? If I chose to read it I could and those that chose not read it could pass on reading it.

When I joined this forum , the Darkside tornado came long before I had joined. It must have been a Doozee to have this topic remove. I for one like to hear all the pros and cons on this subject. Car tires on MC are hear to stay.
A quarter mile dragster use the best of both worlds . I for one ride roads that are not race tracks . It is sad to see that there is no place in this forum
for a Darkside section. It make a very interesting topic to read.
We are very few Silverwing riders in a sea of MC. Lets get along with each
other.

We'll be asking for a section on K&N filters or Hyperpro springs.

Lets keep the forum simple.

Oh if only comprehension were as simple as reading...

If there is no place for the car tire users to go and discuss all of the many wonderful qualities and properties of the car tire on a motorbike... Hey wait there seems to be around 10+ threads about it and amazingly even tinman found this one so it must be possible to find out about them even without a special section.

And as Waspie so accurately points out - then seperate sections for all kinds of other mods too. Let's face it, how will you know about those mods otherwise?

This is where that comprehension thing comes into play.

For all the car tire disciples: I believe the owner of the forum has said no to a special section. Again read, but then comprehend the amazing reality behind his words.

And, since some seem to think we must post about all of the litttle things we do relative to our bikes, thanks for the update Larry, you must tell us what psi you use as well as the brand of tire gague employed to check the pressure. Or were you just hoping to keep this thread alive for some other purpose?

This 'Darkside' business is daft anyway - and I don't refer to fitting car tyres to scooters - because it is a term hijacked to mean anything which is contrary to tradition or the norm; for example, apart from the obvious use, it refers to T&G scooters on geared-scooter forums.
Therefore, to have a section with that title may mean different things to different people.

I've yet to read a post from a Darksider saying they sought advice from their insurance company before fitting a car tyre and then went ahead with their consent. I haven't read anything about the fitting of car tyres to motorcycles being approved by insurance companies either, nor have I seen car tyres suitable for fitting to motorcycles and scooters on display in motorcycle dealerships, or in mail order catalogues where they list suitable replacement tyres for specific motorcycles or scooters.

Why is that?

It seems most posts on using a car tire are about whether or not they are good or bad. There are really few posts that give detailed information on them. I know Bill (Honda-silver) has posted much information as to the type, brand, etc. It really is just a decision to use one or not. It seems the main reason to use one is to get a lot more miles out of a rear tire and it may ride nicer on rougher roads, but I don't know that.

If someone is curious about "Darksiding" then just do it, and if you don't like it change it back to a m/c tire. IMO.

I guess we already have a spot for discussion on car tires and it would be in the Accessories & Modifications forum. As long as "car tire" or " Darkside" is in the header if someone did not care to discuss or read about a "car tire" or " Darkside" they should just not bother to read it. So this hole thing should have started there with the first post. I rarely go to the Rides and Stories part of the forum as they are usually are a long read. But sometimes I do go their when things are slow and I am glad that people take the time to post their adventures. That said I would never go there and put them down and I will never understand why someone has to get involved in a post that doesn't interest them.