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vmaximus Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 19 Age: 59 Location: Nottinghamshire England Points: 432 Registration date: 2011-04-15
 | Subject: variator sliders Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:27 pm | |
| I will shortly be changing the drive belt and roller weights on my A7 s/wing.Having just received a workshop manual this seems an easy enough job to do.I have read several topics about Dr pulley sliders but my question is can i fit dr pulley sliders/weights to a standard Honda variator.I want to get as good a MPG as possible but i tow a camping trailer so i am not too bothered about faster acceleration just a general good all round performance. Thanks. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2153 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3048 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:20 pm | |
| | vmaximus wrote: | | my question is can i fit dr pulley sliders/weights to a standard Honda variator. |
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vmaximus Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 19 Age: 59 Location: Nottinghamshire England Points: 432 Registration date: 2011-04-15
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:58 am | |
| Thanks for the reply,my next question is does anybody know where i can buy them in England and what weight would i need to get the best MPG |
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ulflyer Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 155 Location: Lexington NC Points: 397 Registration date: 2011-10-27
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:07 am | |
| VMax: I may be wrong here, and if so, I hope others will jump in and correct me, but if you're pulling a camping trailer with the Silverwing, I don't think you want to use lower weights than the originals. Lower weights give higher rpm on takeoff, and lower RPM's at cruise. Its the top end lower rpm that I would think might put too much strain on the scooter. Frankly, I'd stay with the factory weight, be it a Dr. Pully or OEM.
As to your belt, how much milage do you have on it now? Might want to examine it carefully, measure it, and if its still in spec, continue using it. I ride with several other SW owners, one of which has over 200,000 miles and is only on his second USED belt. His dealer provided the used ones that other customers insisted be changed at the specified milage in the manual, despite dealer advising against it.
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jodders1 Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 32 Location: lancashire, uk Points: 428 Registration date: 2011-05-09
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:51 am | |
| vmax: there is no agents in the uk that sell dr pulley sliders ref: unionmaterials.com to order some on union materials website click on agents then onto germany www.drpulley.info mr.diestel on the website click translate to change from german to english register your details and buy your sliders 28x20mm x24g sliders 45eur +3.50eur postage can pay with paypal the exchange rate 1.12eur to the pound today you may be better ordering the dr pulley sliding pieces at the same time sp2820-w they are 16eur |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2153 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3048 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:22 am | |
| | vmaximus wrote: | | what weight would i need to get the best MPG |
I would go with weights lower than the standard 28 gr. If you want the best mpg, you want to keep the engine close to its torque peak of 5k rpm. Heavier weights will not allow the engine to approach ideal rpm while accelerating from a stop. You will need more throttle accelerating the bike and trailer. This will lug the engine around town, resulting in higher fuel consumption. On the highway all weights of Dr. Pulley cruise at the same rpm. So I'd recommend 24gr or even 22gr for higher takeoff rpm, smoother transmission performance, and in the end better acceleration with the trailer. You should check with Paul at www.unionmaterial.com for his opinion as well. He manufactures Dr. Pulley products. |
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LVScooterBill Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 113 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Points: 472 Registration date: 2011-06-07
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:03 pm | |
| This guy in Oregon, USA will ship worldwide. Not sure what his international shipping would be, though. He's about the same price for the actual sliders as Buggy Parts NW. http://www.ebay.com/itm/260740254365?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_898 |
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jodders1 Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 32 Location: lancashire, uk Points: 428 Registration date: 2011-05-09
 | Subject: dr pulley sliders Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:18 am | |
| hi all can anybody tell me before i make my final decision to order dr pulley sliders have they noticed any increase in belt wear or belt slapping wear on the outer case with the belt running higher up the variator pulleys with dr pulley sliders in, is the dr pulley sliders wear rate lasting as long as the stock rollers |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2153 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3048 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:19 am | |
| Definitely no belt slap and no signs of contact between the belt and aluminum housing. I have had less belt dust in the housing with the sliders than with either the stock rollers or J. Costa variator. |
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jodders1 Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 32 Location: lancashire, uk Points: 428 Registration date: 2011-05-09
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:21 am | |
| thanks bigbird have ordered my 24g dr pulley sliders and sliding pieces have opened up the variator today just to see how it all goes together had no problems and was suprised how much dirt there was in the variator housing and rollers my bike has only 3200 miles and is 18 months old there is belt rubbing marks on the aluminum housing have give it all a good clean and put it back together for now hopefully sliders will be here next week to fit them |
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DaveR Super Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 219 Age: 75 Location: Scottsbluff, Nebraska U.S.A Points: 1405 Registration date: 2009-02-19
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:31 am | |
| Sorry I asked questions. . . seems they have been answered except for one thing. I notice on the "sliders" out of Eugene, Oregon, they are 26g. Do they have other weights? Guess I'm pretty ignorant on this subject but do want better gas mileage. Old Dave |
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The Scootist Silver Wing Rider


Number of posts: 484 Age: 54 Location: Littleton, Colorado Points: 1675 Registration date: 2009-01-23
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:04 pm | |
| Dave: I had the 26 g sliders and liked them quite well. I was able to get 59 mpg if I was careful. I wanted a bit better accelleration so I switched to 22 g sliders. I still get about 55 mpg and the accelleration is about as good as I had with the J Costa variator. |
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Vealie Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 15 Location: Barnsley UK Points: 266 Registration date: 2011-09-18
 | Subject: Re: variator sliders Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:06 am | |
| I ordered two sets of sliders (28&26g) from Buggy Parts. They did a great job in sending them out quickly and e-mailing me a tracking number etc. But after three weeks they hadn't arrived. Tracking via USPS told me they were in the UK so entered the tracking number into the UK postoffice website, but didn't get a hit. Turns out they were with Parcel Force and were in the Rotherham depot waiting for me to pay £28 duty! Why Parcel Force didn't tell me, I don't know. I like them, so I'll probably order a set of 24g and 22g in the future and sell the spare 28g set that I didn't install. |
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