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PostSubject: What's your favourite riding position?   Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:08 pm

Recently I've been trying a slightly different riding position and it has really helped with my cornering.

I've been riding with my feet all the way forward, ie at about 35 degrees pressed up against the front of the footwell. I've then been leaning back so my back is at an angle of maybe 75-80 degrees. This means my arms are more outstretched.

The downside is that over long distances my back is aching slightly as the back rest presses more into the small of my back (a 3rd party backrest may cure this). The upside is that corners feel much smoother and natural as my body seems to shift balance much easier making the whole process just feel 'right'. I should point out that I'm 6 foot 1.

I was just wondering if any other folks used this position or maybe something else?
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:11 pm

My feet are on the bottom of the front vertical floorboard, but I lean forward in a "sport touring" posture.

My scooter has enough weight already on the rear wheel. Sitting straight up, or leaning back only adds to that. Most bikes handle better when there's more weight on the front and this adds to that.

Plus, it is more comfortable. The more upright position transfers all the jolts and bumps straight into the spine. It hurts. By leaning forward some, the rear lifts up and down, but there is not jolt to the spine. It simply tilts like a teeter-tooter up and down.

If you look at pictures of riders who race scooters, you will see them leaning forward too. If it didn't work, they wouldn't be doing it.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:21 pm

Well, seeing as I recently totaled my Swing Sad I think my favorite riding position would be UPRIGHT WITH WHEELS DOWN!! Laughing But I do shift my position when I ride ... (rode) .... for longer distances, I would do as wingnprayer and lean back a bit with my feet stretched forward ... when that was tiring, I would sit upright, with my feet on the floorboards. Sometimes I would lean forward a bit so I could feel my turns betters ...
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:12 pm

I like to be up on top of things, so i can control the action. read what you want into that!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:42 pm


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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:54 am

Feet forward for me, ever since my Helix days and the Best Feet Forward MCC started my interest in maxi scooters. In fact I find it unnatural riding with my feet flat down on the floorboards. If I need to stretch or break wind, it's easy to lift both butt cheeks off the seat for a few seconds in the FF position.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:23 am

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:54 am

Meldrew wrote:
Feet forward for me, ever since my Helix days and the Best Feet Forward MCC started my interest in maxi scooters. In fact I find it unnatural riding with my feet flat down on the floorboards. If I need to stretch or break wind, it's easy to lift both butt cheeks off the seat for a few seconds in the FF position.


With Meldrew on this. Including the lifting butt cheeks! Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:48 am

Feet FLAT on the deck. I like to do alot of high speed riding and in order to corner you need to crouch forward as others have observed. This is in order to weight the front wheel.

I like to use the restroom BEFORE I take a ride, not during.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:07 am

Feet forward 99% of the time, except when slow speed turning. The rear weight transfer makes the Swing more stable at very low speeds, especially when doing U-turns without touching the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:45 am

Feet Forward for max. control. Feet and legs impportant to control. Press right with foot go right, etc
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:54 am

Varies, I try feet all way forward but having long legs they don't really stretch much, that seems to be the more relaxed position. If I want to do a little faster paced roads with lots of curves I prefer my feet more toward the back, kind of flat on the boards.

I found also the the seat kind of slope toward the front a bit, so that make me change position a few times while riding.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:26 am

Usually flat on the boards, particularly for city riding where you're doing a lot of stop and go, easier to put my feet down quickly. Also I feel like I have a bit better control and I'm more alert - strictly psychological I'm sure. On longer rides with no stops, on I think it's a good idea to change position every so often so I move my feet forward from time to time.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:39 pm

donkeyhater wrote:
I like to use the restroom BEFORE I take a ride, not during.


I'm sure you do, but what's that got to do with your preferred riding position? Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:40 pm

cjuzda wrote:
Usually flat on the boards, particularly for city riding where you're doing a lot of stop and go, easier to put my feet down quickly. Also I feel like I have a bit better control and I'm more alert - strictly psychological I'm sure. On longer rides with no stops, on I think it's a good idea to change position every so often so I move my feet forward from time to time.

Chris


The truth is that there is more control when having the feet rearward and planted on the boards. It is easier to move your body and make the bike go where you want it. When sitting with the feet all the way forward, it's more relaxed and harder to flog the bike left or right. All relatively speaking of course since the Silverwing is not a race bike or heavy bike.

But a slouched position with feet forward gives a little less control in case of emergency.

I think that's why I like to move around, there are times when you can cruise in a relaxed way and when it's best to be ready for anything... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:37 pm

Just because your feet are positioned forward, does not necessarily mean you are relaxed.

I often brace my lower half of the body between the forward portion of the footrest and my rear against the butt-rest. It is the closest thing to gripping the fuel tank with your knees on a motorcycle.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:24 pm

Daboo wrote:
Just because your feet are positioned forward, does not necessarily mean you are relaxed.

I often brace my lower half of the body between the forward portion of the footrest and my rear against the butt-rest. It is the closest thing to gripping the fuel tank with your knees on a motorcycle.


I can only speak for myself but I've rode FF for over 15 years and it works for me, I'm not on a motorcycle either, so the only time I think about the fuel tank is when it needs filling.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:34 pm



That's what I meant by flat on the boards- My feet are usually directly lined up under my knees, which gives the best contact with the board and the most leverage at the same time.

carlosw wrote:
cjuzda wrote:
Usually flat on the boards, particularly for city riding where you're doing a lot of stop and go, easier to put my feet down quickly. Also I feel like I have a bit better control and I'm more alert - strictly psychological I'm sure. On longer rides with no stops, on I think it's a good idea to change position every so often so I move my feet forward from time to time.

Chris


The truth is that there is more control when having the feet rearward and planted on the boards. It is easier to move your body and make the bike go where you want it. When sitting with the feet all the way forward, it's more relaxed and harder to flog the bike left or right. All relatively speaking of course since the Silverwing is not a race bike or heavy bike.

But a slouched position with feet forward gives a little less control in case of emergency.

I think that's why I like to move around, there are times when you can cruise in a relaxed way and when it's best to be ready for anything... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:36 pm

Daboo wrote:
Just because your feet are positioned forward, does not necessarily mean you are relaxed.

I often brace my lower half of the body between the forward portion of the footrest and my rear against the butt-rest. It is the closest thing to gripping the fuel tank with your knees on a motorcycle.

Chris


Surely different people have different bodies, different sizes and also different feelings about it. I too tried to press my feet to the forward sloped part of the board but since I have long legs, they sit at almost 90 degrees and so it does not really work for me. When I put them forward like that they tend to be kind of relaxed. Since I also have long arms I end up being kind of slouched back.

For someone with shorter arms and shorter legs maybe it works better to brace the bike putting pressure with the feet to the forward part of the floor board and the butt rest.
Also with shorter arms one tends to be bent forward more.



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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:20 pm

Laughing I am not height challenged...I just fit comfortably in economy class seats on airlines. So yes, I fit the description you have of short arms and short legs. Smile

I'd never really thought about what it would be like with the longer arms and legs...I just assumed you could move the butt rest back to get the distance needed, but perhaps not. Thanks for the perspective.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:05 am

Daboo wrote:
Laughing I am not height challenged...I just fit comfortably in economy class seats on airlines. So yes, I fit the description you have of short arms and short legs. Smile

I'd never really thought about what it would be like with the longer arms and legs...I just assumed you could move the butt rest back to get the distance needed, but perhaps not. Thanks for the perspective.

Chris


Well I did move the butt rest all the way to the back, but I feel I would need another couple of inches to be really comfortable. The seat itself could be an inch or so higher and maybe sloped a little backward, at least this is what I feel would be best to make my body more comfortable. I am not huge but at 6'2" and 240 pounds I am not small. Rolling Eyes

Despite the feeling of being a little cramped on it I love the Silverwing and I think it is the most confidence inspiring bike I have ridden other then a moped. Even the Vespa I used to have while it was great, it tended to get really light on the back during bracking and I find that the linked brakes on the Silverwing are just great. I believe that they are similar to what Moto Guzzi has been doing for years in terms of linking one brake with the front and rear disks. Short of ABS I feel these are some of the most secure set up I have used.

Of course this is my opinion based on my personal experience and for me moving my body position and feet position is kind of normal while riding around on this bike and I don't mind it really. I am having a lot of fun with this Silverwing. Laughing
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PostSubject: it should be obvious   Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:24 am

Meldrew wrote:
donkeyhater wrote:
I like to use the restroom BEFORE I take a ride, not during.


I'm sure you do, but what's that got to do with your preferred riding position? Neutral


Unlike some of the folks across the water, I dont like squirming around on the seat in order push air around a turd.

I prefer to drop the food babies off at the pool so that I can be serious about my riding. I am more of a high speed rider so lifting my ass in order to flatulate could put me off the road in an instant.

So that's what it has to do with my preferred riding position. Scroll up, wake up, and pay attention.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:13 am

donkeyhater wrote:
I am more of a high speed rider so lifting my ass in order to flatulate could put me off the road in an instant.

So that's what it has to do with my preferred riding position. Scroll up, wake up, and pay attention.


I'm sure you're a legend in your own mind, but you come across as having more hot air and wind than anything I can muster lifting my ass off the seat for a second. Rolling Eyes


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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:21 am

At your age, Mildew, I would bet $ that mustering up anything for a second is a challenge.

After all the farkling on your Silverwing is done I'd lay odds you are still just a keyboard rider.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:46 am

Name your odds, donkeyhater. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:04 pm

Why don't we hear of Donkeyhater on the tracks of the world? :rolling rolling laughter
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:31 pm

donkeyhater wrote:
At your age, Mildew, I would bet $ that mustering up anything for a second is a challenge.

After all the farkling on your Silverwing is done I'd lay odds you are still just a keyboard rider.


What's my age got to do with anything, at least you know my age, where I am, I introduced myself to the Forum on joining, have contributed to a variety of topics, you've some idea about my Silver Wing and the kit on it, and yeah I'm really into farkling, I've got a mud flap made from a piece of plant pot.

All anyone knows about you is that you've been a tyre fitter, have a chip on your shoulder, and a compulsory pre-ride dump!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:12 pm

Folks - play nice. Stick to the topic and stop the slap fight.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:31 pm

Thanks, Dale. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite riding position?   Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:33 pm

Scheesh! Who'dathunk that a topic as benign as preferred riding position would elicit such a barrage. For me, my preferred riding position depends on the type of riding. If I am riding aggressively I try to put more weight on the front wheel by tucking me feet as far back on the foot rests as they can go and leaning forward into the dash. In traffic I have one foot forward and one back. On a long cruise I shift from feet forward to feet back to one forward and one back to leaning back to leaning forward. This is one of the greatest advantages of the Swing. You can try many different positions to keep from getting too tired or sore.
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