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john123
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 116
Age: 64
Location: Santa Barbara California
Points: 981
Registration date: 2010-02-21
 |  Subject: hand made clutch tool  Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:02 am | |
| A few years ago I read someone's article about making a tool made out of a piece of wood and two bolts that were to be placed into the clutch area and it would hold it so you could remove or install the large nut, and be able to replace the pins or sliders and belt. Any one help me with this? |
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redeye
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 151
Age: 51
Location: Maryland
Points: 749
Registration date: 2010-10-13
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:12 am | |
| This may be the item you're after.
http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles/silverwing/articles/drivepulleytool/drivepulleytool.html
I was looking at this a few days ago. |
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john123
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 116
Age: 64
Location: Santa Barbara California
Points: 981
Registration date: 2010-02-21
| | Subject: Yup Yup Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:21 am | |
| Fantastic. That is exactelly what I was refering to. You are the best! |
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redeye
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 151
Age: 51
Location: Maryland
Points: 749
Registration date: 2010-10-13
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:56 am | |
| Goodness, you made my day. Glad that was it. My Silver Wing's odo is roughly 14,500 miles, so belt replacement time will soon arrive. |
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goldwinger
Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 74
Age: 58
Location: Canvey Island, Essex, UK
Points: 435
Registration date: 2011-06-14
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:31 am | |
| I copied that idea a few weeks ago and it works great!!!
Ian |
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bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 2160
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3056
Registration date: 2010-05-02
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:55 am | |
| FYI, that's the variator nut tool. The actual clutch is on the rear driven assembly. Removal of the clutch not only requires removal of the variator nut, but also a special clutch puller.
Just in case you wanted to know. |
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goldwinger
Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 74
Age: 58
Location: Canvey Island, Essex, UK
Points: 435
Registration date: 2011-06-14
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:22 pm | |
| Very true, well spotted!!! But, actually, you can change the clutch without a puller.
Ian |
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bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 2160
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3056
Registration date: 2010-05-02
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:12 pm | |
| | goldwinger wrote: | | Very true, well spotted!!! But, actually, you can change the clutch without a puller. Ian |
Do you know something the service manual doesn't?
That's my being sarcastic. 
I'm planning on eventually installing a Dr. Pulley HiT V4 clutch just like you list in your signature. In looking at the service manual, two special tools are needed. One tool holds the clutch outer while the nut and rear pulley assembly are removed. I can see an impact gun perhaps being able to remove that nut, while wedging a wood block in there to stop any driven assembly movement. The other is a puller to separate the clutch outer from the shaft.
I wouldn't want to soak that shaft with penetrant, for fear some will eventually seep onto the clutch or driven pulleys. I wouldn't want to hit it with a torch, for fear of damaging any seals or clutch pads. So how did you bypass the puller?
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Cosmic_Jumper
Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 302
Location: damn near Philadelphia, PA
Points: 1446
Registration date: 2009-06-12
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:56 pm | |
| | bigbird wrote: | | goldwinger wrote: | | Very true, well spotted!!! But, actually, you can change the clutch without a puller. Ian |
Do you know something the service manual doesn't? |
Actually, all you have to do to remove the driven pulley / clutch is to lock up the rear brake while you loosen the 22 mm hub nut.
It's only torqued to 45 lbs ft, so it's not at all difficult.
No special tools needed.
Tim |
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bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 2160
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3056
Registration date: 2010-05-02
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:02 pm | |
| | Cosmic_Jumper wrote: |
Actually, all you have to do to remove the driven pulley / clutch is to lock up the rear brake while you loosen the 22 mm hub nut.
It's only torqued to 45 lbs ft, so it's not at all difficult.
No special tools needed.
Tim |
That's only for the first part, the driven pulley. Then the clutch needs to come off with the clutch puller. The one's I've seen have only been able to be removed with the Honda puller.
What's the next step, or for some reason did your clutch just slide off? |
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Captain
Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 50
Location: St. John's, NL Canada
Points: 1257
Registration date: 2009-01-24
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:22 am | |
| I used a short piece of left over oak hardwood flooring to make the same variator tool noted above. |
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goldwinger
Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 74
Age: 58
Location: Canvey Island, Essex, UK
Points: 435
Registration date: 2011-06-14
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:39 am | |
| bigbird, when I undid the main nut with an air wrench (with the handbrake on and a cable tie on the rear brake lever) the clutch came off quite easily, with just a little help from 2 broad blade screwdrivers to lever behind. I only attempted it because I had a 2/3 leg puller but it wouldn't fit, so I tried to ease it off with the screwdrivers and it came off without much effort. As my bike is 2001, I expected it to be a real problem, so hopefully they are all that easy?
Ian
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bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 2160
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3056
Registration date: 2010-05-02
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:36 am | |
| | goldwinger wrote: | bigbird, when I undid the main nut with an air wrench (with the handbrake on and a cable tie on the rear brake lever) the clutch came off quite easily, with just a little help from 2 broad blade screwdrivers to lever behind. I only attempted it because I had a 2/3 leg puller but it wouldn't fit, so I tried to ease it off with the screwdrivers and it came off without much effort. As my bike is 2001, I expected it to be a real problem, so hopefully they are all that easy?
Ian
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Thanks, Ian. That's what I wanted to hear. My clutch has already come off once, at the dealer. When my Swing was only 600 km old, it developed an oil leak between the belt housing and final drive. The dealer had to wait 1 week to receive that special puller to remove the clutch. They tried everything to get the clutch off without the puller, but couldn't. I suppose once it has been off, the second time will be much easier, and I may be able to do what you did.
Thanks, Terry |
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goldwinger
Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 74
Age: 58
Location: Canvey Island, Essex, UK
Points: 435
Registration date: 2011-06-14
| | Subject: Re: hand made clutch tool Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:25 am | |
| My pleasure Terry, glad I can be of help to you for a change.
Ian |
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