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PostSubject: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:44 am

This was a real pain as i was on a trip around Scotland late last week and the w/e and the seat jammed so that I could not open it and get at the gear inside the boot! Sad Not good....

The rear catch is opening OK, and I was able to squeeze some stuff out, but only clothes and the like... The seat appears to have either a 2nd catch around the middle of the seat, or has jammed, as the seat wobbles back and forth at the front end when the rear catch has been opened.

I have tried brute force, that didn't work. I have tried putting pressure on the middle area when turning the boot key, no joy either.

Anyone had this or can recommend a way to get at the inside? I did fit a new gas strut before I went away, and did wonder if that was jammed, but when squeezing the seat up, it appears to be free, and with pressure should open anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:51 am

Someone needs to come up with a secret pull cord somewhere up under the side panel for things like this.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:08 am

Hey Tag,

How about a solid "T" looking bracket that bolts in-place of the stock Honda center seat bracket. The down side would be the center of the seat would not lock up, but on the other side of the coin, a person would never need to worry about having that cable, latch or latch spring failing when on a trip. If a person just removed the Honda bracket, would the center part of the seat move from side to side? (If I still had my bike I would try that out). That's why I'm thinking a solid "T" type bracket.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:18 am

I've had this as well. The way I've managed to open it is to press down hard on the centre of the seat while pulling upwards at the back. I think the cause of this issue is too much stuff in the compartment.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:07 am

DennisB wrote:
Hey Tag,

How about a solid "T" looking bracket that bolts in-place of the stock Honda center seat bracket. The down side would be the center of the seat would not lock up, but on the other side of the coin, a person would never need to worry about having that cable, latch or latch spring failing when on a trip. If a person just removed the Honda bracket, would the center part of the seat move from side to side? (If I still had my bike I would try that out). That's why I'm thinking a solid "T" type bracket.


I just went out and looked at mine, and that would work, the downside being a lot of "getting down into it". From what i see, it serves no purpose other than additional security, and maybe a sure, tight seal on the box. If that's the case, anyone wanting in the box that bad is just going to take the whole bike anyway, it would take a while to cut into the seat enough to steal stuff.

More simply, one could just cut off the u bolt that serves as a latch bar in the front position. Unbolting it would be possible, but it mounts from the top, so you would have to tear into the top of your seat, remove it, then reupholster
it.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:09 am

wingnprayer wrote:
I've had this as well. The way I've managed to open it is to press down hard on the centre of the seat while pulling upwards at the back. I think the cause of this issue is too much stuff in the compartment.


Tried this with no joy! Where did you put the pressure, can you remember? This a real pain, I have gear I need out, and I want to use the bike again on Tuesday, 48hrs from now... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:11 am

DennisB wrote:


....on the other side of the coin, a person would never need to worry about having that cable, latch or latch spring failing when on a trip. If a person just removed the Honda bracket, would the center part of the seat move from side to side? (If I still had my bike I would try that out). That's why I'm thinking a solid "T" type bracket.


So I guess from this, that it may well be a cable operating a second catch that is the cause of the problem. Bummer!
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:19 am

On a side note. The projector beams in the eyebrow of the front lens idea is a bust. It works but there if far to much fabrication to make it viable. So now were working on using pig spotter mirror cases to accomplish the same thing, mounted on the upper, outside w piece between the windscreen, and the turn signal, looks like it might just work out fine!

And the cut back driver seat bolster is coming along slowly but surely!
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:29 am

steveR wrote:
wingnprayer wrote:
I've had this as well. The way I've managed to open it is to press down hard on the centre of the seat while pulling upwards at the back. I think the cause of this issue is too much stuff in the compartment.


Tried this with no joy! Where did you put the pressure, can you remember? This a real pain, I have gear I need out, and I want to use the bike again on Tuesday, 48hrs from now... Sad


The forward seat latch is directly under my 2 fingers, its more forward than you think it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:41 am

DennisB wrote:
Hey Tag,
If a person just removed the Honda bracket, would the center part of the seat move from side to side? (If I still had my bike I would try that out). That's why I'm thinking a solid "T" type bracket.


Dennis.
Looks like it also serves as a limiting device, allowing the seat plate to travel only so far down, so . . . . . . .
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:04 am

When I switched to the Corbin seat, I didn't install the center latch, and I've had no problems whatsoever. I don't see what purpose the center one serves.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:43 am

A person could weld a small piece of the steel into the original Honda seat catch that attaches to the bottom, center of the seat and make it a no-lockable catch. The piece of steel needs to be the same gauge as the Honda round stock used in the catch...It would work.

Does any have the original Honda Part number for the catches (2) that bolt to the bottom of the seat. I have looked on 3 different Honda dealer sights with no results.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:54 am

Umm...which latch is it that closes the circuit for the interior light to come on?
If its the front latch then that is a concern by removing or modifying it too.

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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:56 am

Dan, It's the rear latch that does the light
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:13 am

Steve this has happened to me a bunch of times. Most times I was able to get it open by pressing down in the center of the seat. Once, that did not work and I apologize that I can't remember who suggested this, but it worked.

Have someone (or yourself) sit on the seat while turning the key to open the latch. Worked like magic. Hasn't happened again.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:02 pm

Tagg, can't quite make out the tat on your arm. What does it say? Is it in Spanish?
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:25 pm

After installing the Utopia backrest I discovered that the original gas strut wasn't strong enough, so I installed a stronger one and that fixed the problem. However, after that the middle catch on the seat often refused to release because there was always pressure against it when I unlocked the rear latch. Because the hook was pulling hard against the latch the friction wouldn't let it slide back across the catch to retract. A sharp whack or two of the fist at that position of the seat always lets it release because it momentarily removes it from contact with the hook and it is able to retract. The person above who mentioned unlocking while sitting on the seat is doing the same thing - take the pressure off the center catch so that it can retract. Hope that helps!
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:25 pm

DennisB wrote:

Does any have the original Honda Part number for the catches (2) that bolt to the bottom of the seat. I have looked on 3 different Honda dealer sights with no results.
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Dennis, Honda Parts Direct lists the center latch as
12 CATCH, SEAT
77230-MCT-000
the rear latch as
10 CATCH, RR. SEAT
77220-MEF-000
The support bar as
19 STAY, SEAT CATCH
77250-MCT-010

I see no reason that the cable to the catch cannot just be disabled (at either end).

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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:27 pm

Jon, Good try, but no cigar. The 2 catches that bolt to the bottom of the seat are the same and they are not listed on the web sight. If you open your Silverwing seat and look at the bottom, you will see the 2 catches that are bolted to the bottom of the seat. They are just not listed or shown on the drawing.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:16 pm

Tagg wrote:


The forward seat latch is directly under my 2 fingers, its more forward than you think it is.



Thanks for the pic Tagg, I'll have another go in the morning now I have a better idea of where to put pressure..... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:19 pm

craigory wrote:
A sharp whack or two of the fist at that position of the seat always lets it release because it momentarily removes it from contact with the hook and it is able to retract. The person above who mentioned unlocking while sitting on the seat is doing the same thing - take the pressure off the center catch so that it can retract. Hope that helps!


If all else fails, I will put some serious weight on the seat.... Give me 5 minutes while i get the wife.......

Thanks for the advice.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:22 pm

Opalsboy wrote:
Steve this has happened to me a bunch of times. Most times I was able to get it open by pressing down in the center of the seat. Once, that did not work and I apologize that I can't remember who suggested this, but it worked.

Have someone (or yourself) sit on the seat while turning the key to open the latch. Worked like magic. Hasn't happened again.


Thanks Gary, I tried pressing down while my daughter operated the seat but had no joy earlier, I'll try sitting on the seat next. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:50 pm

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Tagg, can't quite make out the tat on your arm. What does it say? Is it in Spanish?


Latin.

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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:59 pm

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Latin.

Where your life may take you
God goes with the holy warrior


Interesting.

Mine would say, in hieroglyphics:

"Aliens are responsible for everything"

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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:02 pm

steveR wrote:
Opalsboy wrote:
Steve this has happened to me a bunch of times. Most times I was able to get it open by pressing down in the center of the seat. Once, that did not work and I apologize that I can't remember who suggested this, but it worked.

Have someone (or yourself) sit on the seat while turning the key to open the latch. Worked like magic. Hasn't happened again.


Thanks Gary, I tried pressing down while my daughter operated the seat but had no joy earlier, I'll try sitting on the seat next. Smile


Have someone hold the key turned, then give the latch area a good sharp rap with your hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:04 pm

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Have someone hold the key turned, then give the latch area a good sharp rap with your hand.


I'm not a big fan of rap.
Will your trick work with some Led Zeppelin rock instead?
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:10 pm

bigbird wrote:
Tagg wrote:


Latin.

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Interesting.

Mine would say, in hieroglyphics:

"Aliens are responsible for everything"



Hmmmm.

Mayan, or Egyptian?
hieroglyphic wise that is.
Both civilizations had the same fascination with the sky. Interesting when you consider the independent development of each society
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:16 pm

bigbird wrote:
Tagg wrote:


Have someone hold the key turned, then give the latch area a good sharp rap with your hand.


I'm not a big fan of rap.
Will your trick work with some Led Zeppelin rock instead?


Funny you should say that. I had a dream last week where someone was on the news and said that Mick Jagger had passed away, and that rock and roll as you know it, has died.
All of which has nothing whatsoever to do with a effin stuck seat latch! So there you go!

Long live the the Rolling freaking Stones!
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:25 pm



If all else fails, I will put some serious weight on the seat.... Give me 5 minutes while i get the wife.......

Thanks for the advice.[/quote] Looks like we may have another member in the hospital and unable to ride. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Seat jammed shut   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:26 pm

Tagg wrote:

Hmmmm.

Mayan, or Egyptian?
hieroglyphic wise that is.
Both civilizations had the same fascination with the sky. Interesting when you consider the independent development of each society


Definitely Egyptian. I am a big believer in ancient alien intervention. It explains a lot of things that the bible and science cannot.
What this has to do with a stuck seat latch is way beyond my scope of comprehension.

I had a dream about old man Soichiro Honda, who started the ball rolling. He came back from the heavens on a scooter powered by a VFR 800 engine, connected to a DN-01 style hydrostatic transmission, applying drive power to the rear wheel via a shaft.
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