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PostSubject: waxes and/or polishes   Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:52 pm

thought this would be a good topic,

I've never been one to keep my cars waxed or polished
but sinse I've gotten my Wing I would really like to keep it nice and clean. there are So many types of waxes/polishes out there these days it can blow your mind just woundering what type would be the best for for the job. After asking around at work I ended up with some Turtle Wax Ice detailer (Spray on wipe off) for the body it seemed to work Ok and then Maguires for the plastic.
what other kinds would you all recomend for those of us don't know for sure??
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:26 am

Cruiser,

I expected this would be overrun with posts...

I do not detail our SilverWings often, but I do use the Honda spray cleaner. It is no longer sold as a Honda product, but still looks pretty much the same on the shelf at the dealership. It still works great too. It is a spray on wipe off product that leaves behind a pretty good shine.

I first encountered this product at an Acura dealership. It was the last product used by the service departmant to remove fingerprints from the painted surfaces of the customer cars.

I've never used it on the wind screen, but it really works on the plastic bits.

I use Plexus on the wind screens and the visors of our helmets. This works very well on the clear plastics. I've also used windex wipes on the clear plastics and they also did a good job with no degradation of the plastic or more importantly visibility.

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:34 am

Ya I thought there would be more response here also

I know I would rather be riding than cleaning my cruiser but on my down time I don't mind giving it a quick and easy cleaning to keep it looking good so those Harly riders just see a Flash Cool when I fly by. Razz :ROTF:
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:03 am

Hi All,
Did a little looking around at some of the products available to clean and polish motorcycle and scooter windscreens. I read a lot about ALL the different types of cleaners and polishing products for motorcycle windscreens. This product seemed to be the one that made a big difference to all that used it and is used by the pros. So I ordered a 14 oz can.
It makes the wind screen shine actually better then new. It’s called 210 Plastic Cleaner/Polish and is manufactured by a company called SUMNER LABORATORIES, INC. (order desk # 800-542-8656). I recommend checking around, online for the best price. Comes in 7 or 14 oz’s aerosol can.
Sorry to say, this product is not available at your local auto parts store (I just wish it was). You need to order it or check at your local boat parts or boat marina stores.
It’s not just another spray cleaner; it’s anti static and anti fog and it makes a wind screen SHINE. It is made to clean and polish Lexan, Plexiglass, Lucite, Acrylite, Isinglass and all other acrylics.
Cleaned both my wind screen and headlight and they look WAY better than they did!
The down side is this product is not cheap in price, but its well worth the money to get the sparkling, clean shine that this product gives, on all my scooters optics.

I tried this product and it works great and I highly recommend it….. and NO, I don’t sell it.

DennisB

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:28 am

I've always just used Windex on my bike. I do have one of the Honda products for the windshild but I just use mostly good old Windex and paper towels. I try to do my windshield before I take each ride and it has never scratched. Simple works for me... sunny
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:41 am

Hi Coralee,

Please....take a moment.

You need to do a google search for "Windex use on Lexan" before you go and damage your windshield.

Your scooters wind shield is made of Lexan and Windex glass cleaner should not be used on it. Please do the research....you will see that the makers of Windex does not recommends this product on Lexan.

Lexan is also used to make motorcycle helmet face shields.

DennisB :D
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:33 pm

I guess my first post in here is going to be about polishes or waxes or whatever. I use Liquid Glass. That is the best stuff I have ever used. You can use this stuff on anything. It's been around for awhile and it's American Made in NJ. I use it on all my items that have an engine and a paintjob. And it's safe to use on plastics of anytype. I also use that Mothers quick spray too.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:04 am

I use the Honda spray cleaner and wax. I can still buy it at my local dealer. I've heard the story about Honda not putting it out but the dealer still gets it in. Cost is about $5.95 a can. It's the best thing I've found.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:24 pm

Johnson Pledge Spray Furniture Polish does a good job on Plexiglas windshields. We use it all the time on the plexiglas windshields in airplanes. Spray it on, let it dry and wipe it off. Takes off bugs too.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:26 pm

DennisB wrote:
Hi Coralee,

Please....take a moment.

You need to do a google search for "Windex use on Lexan" before you go and damage your windshield.

Your scooters wind shield is made of Lexan and Windex glass cleaner should not be used on it. Please do the research....you will see that the makers of Windex does not recommends this product on Lexan.

Lexan is also used to make motorcycle helmet face shields.

DennisB :D


Are you sure its made of Lexan? My Givi is made of Plexiglas. Lexan also scratches much easier than plexiglas, but is more impact resistant.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:36 pm

I dont know if you get stuff called autoglym but its good used it in the bike shop to make bikes sparkle before selling them
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:04 pm

Turtlewax car shampoo for washing and Mer for polishing.

If the bike is very grimey I spray with Muc-Off first to loosen the dirt.

The screen on my non-Silverwing is very easily removed so I wash it with washing-up liquid in the bath. The Silverwing screen will be washed but not polished (when I finally get it!)

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:19 pm

I use a product called Klasse All in one. BMW supposedly uses it in there factory to polish the cars. Brings out a beautiful lustre on darker paints.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:26 pm

skydad99 wrote:

"Are you sure its made of Lexan? My Givi is made of Plexiglas. Lexan also scratches much easier than plexiglas, but is more impact resistant."

Lexan (polycarbonate) is approved for use as a windshield on motorcycles by the DOT.

Plexiglas (acrylic) is not DOT appoved. I shatters to easy when hit buy rocks and other things coming off the road.

"Polycarbonate is a DOT approved material for making windshields; normal acrylic is not. Some states require DOT approved windshields, and therefore in these states a normal acrylic windshield is actually illegal, however these laws are rarely enforced. Normal acrylic can be shattered by an impact from a rock moving at speeds as low as 15mph. "

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Fairing.html

My Givi windshield is made of LEXAN and so is my helmet screen.

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:49 pm

DennisB wrote:
skydad99 wrote:

"Are you sure its made of Lexan? My Givi is made of Plexiglas. Lexan also scratches much easier than plexiglas, but is more impact resistant."

Lexan (polycarbonate) is approved for use as a windshield on motorcycles by the DOT.

Plexiglas (acrylic) is not DOT appoved. I shatters to easy when hit buy rocks and other things coming off the road.

"Polycarbonate is a DOT approved material for making windshields; normal acrylic is not. Some states require DOT approved windshields, and therefore in these states a normal acrylic windshield is actually illegal, however these laws are rarely enforced. Normal acrylic can be shattered by an impact from a rock moving at speeds as low as 15mph. "

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Fairing.html

My Givi windshield is made of LEXAN and so is my helmet screen.

DennisB


Thanks for the info. My Givi windshield has the word "plexiglass" engraved in very small words on the outer left hand side of it. Stange that the FAA which is under the DOT approves plexiglas windshields on airplanes but yet DOT doesn't approve plexiglas on motorcycle windshields. With the Federal Government, you never know.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:41 pm

DennisB wrote:
skydad99 wrote:

"Are you sure its made of Lexan? My Givi is made of Plexiglas. Lexan also scratches much easier than plexiglas, but is more impact resistant."

Lexan (polycarbonate) is approved for use as a windshield on motorcycles by the DOT.

Plexiglas (acrylic) is not DOT appoved. I shatters to easy when hit buy rocks and other things coming off the road.

"Polycarbonate is a DOT approved material for making windshields; normal acrylic is not. Some states require DOT approved windshields, and therefore in these states a normal acrylic windshield is actually illegal, however these laws are rarely enforced. Normal acrylic can be shattered by an impact from a rock moving at speeds as low as 15mph. "

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Fairing.html

My Givi windshield is made of LEXAN and so is my helmet screen.

DennisB


That's a pretty interesting site. I note that a special high cost acrylic called Impact Modified Acrylic is available. This form of acrylic is DOT approved for windshields. This is not Lexan. I know for a fact that the Clearview Windshield is made with this, and I bet the Givi I have is also. If made by Dupont, it would have the plexiglas name on it, which it does. I also noticed that Lexan is made by GE. That's interesting. Regadless, that site is being saved because it has all kind of good information on it. Thanks for the link, Dennis.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:46 pm

Your right...it does say plexiglas GS

Thanks for the information.

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:04 pm

OK, GIVI Windshields (plexiglass GS) Cleaning, Wink

"Unfortunately Windex cannot clean everything, nor should it. Most glass cleaning products contain ammonia or alcohol that, while harmless on glass, will damage your plexiglass. Your first step in cleaning plexiglass it to break the habit of reaching for the glass cleaner. Harsh chemicals will alter plexiglass and cause it to become opaque, thus frustrating any hope of keeping the plexiglass as clean and transparent as possible.

If your plexiglass has been installed or provided by a manufacturer you may want to check and see if the manufacturer suggests any specialized cleaning products. If possible, follow the directions for cleaning and maintenance provided by your manufacturer.

If you are hoping to clean your plexiglass with household items you can follow this procedure:

Begin by blowing the dirt and dust off the surface of the plexiglass. Avoid using your hand or a dry cloth to remove dirt; you might rub the dirt in harder and accidentally scratch the surface of the plexiglass.

Once you have air-removed as much dirt as possible wet down the surface. It is best to create a layer of running water over the plexiglass so the dirt will be able to just float off. Avoid spraying the plexiglass with too much force, otherwise the surface could become chipped. (An example would be using a hose and pressure nozzle on the plexiglass. Such force is not necessary.)

Using a soft, lint-free cloth, wash the surface with warm soapy water. You can use liquid dish soap or gentle, non-abrasive liquid dishwashing soap. Rinse and dry the plexiglass with another soft, lint-free cloth. Don't allow the plexiglass to air dry, otherwise water spots will be left behind. Also, avoid using paper towels in the cleaning process because even they are abrasive enough to cause small scratches and eventual opaqueness.

Clean your plexiglass as often as is needed. By not allowing too much dirt and dust to build up, you will avoid the need to clean and scrub too harshly later."
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:57 am

Just another housewives tip cheers if you have a screen full of bugs place some damp kitchen towels over it for about 10 minutes and they simply wipe off
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:15 am

I am astonished at the amount of attention this topic gets on all forums.

We have stock windscreens on our SilverWings and other than the use of Plexus before we head out on a big ride we regularly use Windex and a cotton towel to clean our windscreens. (We often ride on bikes that haven't been washed in a month!) While on the road we use the prepackaged wipes. This has been our modus operendi since August 2003 when we first got our Reflexes. No cloudy windscreens, no micro scratches resulting in crashes due to sunbursts of light.

I continue to be amazed at the obsession with cleaning the windscreen. Just to ease the mind of those who don't have a formalized ritual for cleaning the windscreen - it doesn't matter. Just don't use a brillo pad, comet or sandpaper and you should be fine. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:54 am

This is a forum and like all forums many topics will be talked about and alot of information and ideas will shared amoung it's members. No topic will just end, it just goes on. So if you have a better way to keep your scooters windshield sparkling clean or have a product that you like to use, please join in.

Always remember, it would not be a forum without your input......

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:32 am

Does anyone use Can-Do, the spray cleaner wax on their stock SW shield?
I have used it on previous bikes, no problem, but will use water till I hear this is ok.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:11 am

I'm not saying don't contribute or that it should end, or even that no one should be interested - just that I am amazed this is such a hot topic. And, also that I am surprised that there are so many ways that it should not be done that are endorsed as the only way it should be done. Or that our windscreens are apparently several different compositions of plastic.

Please post on. May be I'm just bored at work today...

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:29 am

kawibiker wrote:
Does anyone use Can-Do, the spray cleaner wax on their stock SW shield?
I have used it on previous bikes, no problem, but will use water till I hear this is ok.


I have never heard of Can-Do, but I don't think any wax type stuff would hurt your windshield. I know Johnson's Pledge works great for cleaning & protecting it.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:55 am

Quote:
just that I am amazed this is such a hot topic. And, also that I am surprised that there are so many ways that it should not be done that are endorsed as the only way it should be done. Or that our windscreens are apparently several different compositions of plastic.


So mine made of see through plastic and should not be cleaned with rocks or crocadile teeth

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:02 am

You're all over it. Although powdered crocodile teeth made a real fine dust that is good for removing the scratches.

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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:07 am

Crocadile teeth!!!

Is that just teeth and not the snappers? Pretty darn scarry way to get the windsield clean.
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:12 am

leave them in the croc that way you can get a better grip then throw back in the water
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:38 am

Hy John,

Don't throw them back....recycle'em, I'm thinken a nice pair of boots! YEA! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: waxes and/or polishes   Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:20 am

I imagine eating crocodile would be about like eating alligator. Use all of it, not just the skin.
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