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Ishkatan
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 128
Age: 57
Location: Monrovia, Md
Points: 706
Registration date: 2010-11-16
 |  Subject: Larger wheel anyone?  Sun May 29, 2011 11:25 pm | |
| Has anyone increased the diameter of their wheel from 14" to something bigger like 16"?
After riding a KLR 650 it seems to me that th elarge wheels give me more stability even when doing switch back roads. I also bottomed out going over s tall speed bump and would love to raise the bide a inch or 2. Just a thought for the future.
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john grinsel
Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts: 530
Points: 1603
Registration date: 2009-08-18
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 3:45 am | |
| Simple way if you want big wheels, buy a motorcycle.
Want to use bigger scooter wheels? big on front would screw up steering, Rake/trail? Brake balance? Hard to outguess Honda.
SilverWing as scooters go is very steady.
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Tagg
Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts: 439
Points: 1082
Registration date: 2010-11-14
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 6:05 am | |
| | Ishkatan wrote: | Has anyone increased the diameter of their wheel from 14" to something bigger like 16"?
After riding a KLR 650 it seems to me that th elarge wheels give me more stability even when doing switch back roads. I also bottomed out going over s tall speed bump and would love to raise the bide a inch or 2. Just a thought for the future.
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You could do it, but you would basically be re engineering the entire front end. Not worth it unless your doing a custom.
And BTW John, the front wheel is bigger than the rear already. |
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Ishkatan
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 128
Age: 57
Location: Monrovia, Md
Points: 706
Registration date: 2010-11-16
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 9:11 am | |
| No, I don't want to re-engineer the bike or chop it. I was hoping for something simple like going up one inch on the rims and an adapter kit to move the fender up and back. Some cars seem to have big wheel wells allowing tire up-sizing and I was hoping for the same with the rear wheel to keep the horizontal aerodynamics constant. Maybe then the speedometer would be more accurate.  The Burgman 650 has one inch bigger wheels but they look too fat for the SW. John, I understand Rake but what is "trail"? Also, this is mostly curiosity - I suspect I won't do anything. I tend to go for simple stuff. |
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Buickguy
Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 86
Points: 504
Registration date: 2011-04-09
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 9:33 am | |
| Trail is the amount of distance between where the line from the head tube rake would hit the ground and the front axle. Longer trail tends to be steadier at high speeds but difficult at low speeds. Shorter trails are the opposite. The ideal is a mix and is calculated with wheel size, fork offset, fork length, head tube rake angle, and wheel base.  |
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Ishkatan
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 128
Age: 57
Location: Monrovia, Md
Points: 706
Registration date: 2010-11-16
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Waspie
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 1739
Age: 60
Location: Portland, UK
Points: 2905
Registration date: 2009-07-26
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 1:14 pm | |
| Bigger wheel huh! John said it for me. Buy a motorcycle. |
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MikeO
Site Admin
Number of posts: 1724
Age: 62
Location: Western Europe
Points: 2867
Registration date: 2009-06-29
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 2:09 pm | |
| ....or a Beverly. 
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bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 2164
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3061
Registration date: 2010-05-02
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 2:37 pm | |
| | MikeO wrote: | | ....or a Beverly. |
I don't know her. Is she good looking? Good trail? |
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Meldrew
Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts: 602
Age: 61
Location: Cumbria, England UK
Points: 1163
Registration date: 2010-11-16
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 4:02 pm | |
| If I was in the US and wanted big wheels on a twist n' go scooter, I'd be on the lookout for a 2006 model Aprilia Scarabeo 500 complete with ABS, integral brakes, 54 litre top box, optional side panniers, 4.5 gallon fuel tank, and 16" wheels.It was also $2000 cheaper than the Silver Wing new. Aprilia didn't import the Scarabeo 500 into the UK,  and if they had I'd have bought one. |
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Cosmic_Jumper
Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 303
Location: damn near Philadelphia, PA
Points: 1448
Registration date: 2009-06-12
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Mon May 30, 2011 8:33 pm | |
| There was a brief mention on the Singapore Bikes, Silverwing forum that had some photos of a T-Max (15 inch?) wheel installed on a Silverwing front. No text explaining the 'how to' bit though, or if there was text it was a garbled google translation.
IIRC they also had a T-max rear wheel installed on the same SW, but there was virtually no clearance (< 1/4") between the tire & the swingarm pivot. |
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Ishkatan
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 128
Age: 57
Location: Monrovia, Md
Points: 706
Registration date: 2010-11-16
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:34 pm | |
| That T-Max wheel sounds like what I was thinking of. The rear wheel was not in question but that is also an interesting idea...
However, I noticed that after hitting my first 1,000 miles on the bike I am starting to enjoy it more and feel more comfortable on it, even on the highway. Since I have a brand new tire for the front wheel this is going to wait ... but I will be keeping an eye out for a free good T-Max front wheel for 15,000 miles from now. |
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Somerled
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 152
Age: 50
Location: Fort Bliss, TX
Points: 536
Registration date: 2011-06-02
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:13 pm | |
| Well you could buy the other scooter I own. My SYM HD200 has 16" wheels.  |
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Ishkatan
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 128
Age: 57
Location: Monrovia, Md
Points: 706
Registration date: 2010-11-16
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buddy19520
Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 286
Location: Cornelius NC
Points: 1129
Registration date: 2010-02-27
| | Subject: Re: Larger wheel anyone? Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:38 pm | |
| | Ishkatan wrote: | No, I don't want to re-engineer the bike or chop it. I was hoping for something simple like going up one inch on the rims and an adapter kit to move the fender up and back. Some cars seem to have big wheel wells allowing tire up-sizing and I was hoping for the same with the rear wheel to keep the horizontal aerodynamics constant. Maybe then the speedometer would be more accurate.
The Burgman 650 has one inch bigger wheels but they look too fat for the SW.
John, I understand Rake but what is "trail"? Also, this is mostly curiosity - I suspect I won't do anything. I tend to go for simple stuff.
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Even though the Burgman 650 has bigger rims, the overall diameter of the wheel (rim and tire) is no bigger than the Silverwing (actually it's about .05" bigger - less than one tenth of an inch). The profile of the tire on the Silverwing is taller, making up for the smaller rim. Its back wheel is about one quarter inch larger than the Swing.
And if anyone wants to raise the bike up, just increase the preload on your rear shocks a notch or two. The bike will sag less and give you more clearance. |
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