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Old Limey Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 171 Age: 67 Location: BOLTON LANCASHIRE ENGLAND Points: 912 Registration date: 2010-06-09
 | Subject: Givi screen too high Tue May 10, 2011 3:30 am | |
| Anyone any advice on how to remove the top 2" off the givi screen. Iam 5'11. and just fitted the Givi screen, problem is I can't see over it, went for a ride with it on and although i don't like looking through a screen i thought i might get used to it. However the heavens opened and it really rained on me, I could not see a thing because of the damned screen and had to stop several times to clear the screen enough to see through. If I can't reduce the hight i'll put the original screen back as It's not safe as it is |
|  | | MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2867 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Tue May 10, 2011 4:11 am | |
| A quote from a respected fettler on the X9 forum: They are easy to cut with a jigsaw (electric). Use a very fine blade, but not too fine or it 'melts' rather than cuts and the cut heals up again behind the blade. A coarse steel cutter, or a fret cut blade work well. Go steady and cut from the outside of the curvature. Tape a wide area several layers deep over the area so the saw shoe has a well protected area to run over. Mark your cut line with a black marker onto the tape then cut smoothly with the screen well supported so it doesn't flap up and down as you cut. Two blocks of wood either side of the cut and keep the screen positioned so the blocks are below the saw, keep moving the screen as you cut, do it in short sections due to any curvature. Go over the edge afterwards with some coarse sandpaper round a block, then finish off with emery to give a neat chamfered edge. Any slight adjacent scratches can be polished out with metal polish.I think the keys are to prepare thoroughly, take it steady and don't have the saw on full-speed. There are several other methods but this seems to be very satisfactory. PS I think Waspie has some devious method using nylon string. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
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|  | | Waspie Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1739 Age: 60 Location: Portland, UK Points: 2905 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Tue May 10, 2011 4:24 am | |
| | MikeO wrote: | A quote from a respected fettler on the X9 forum:
They are easy to cut with a jigsaw (electric). Use a very fine blade, but not too fine or it 'melts' rather than cuts and the cut heals up again behind the blade. A coarse steel cutter, or a fret cut blade work well. Go steady and cut from the outside of the curvature. Tape a wide area several layers deep over the area so the saw shoe has a well protected area to run over. Mark your cut line with a black marker onto the tape then cut smoothly with the screen well supported so it doesn't flap up and down as you cut. Two blocks of wood either side of the cut and keep the screen positioned so the blocks are below the saw, keep moving the screen as you cut, do it in short sections due to any curvature. Go over the edge afterwards with some coarse sandpaper round a block, then finish off with emery to give a neat chamfered edge. Any slight adjacent scratches can be polished out with metal polish.
I think the keys are to prepare thoroughly, take it steady and don't have the saw on full-speed.
There are several other methods but this seems to be very satisfactory.
PS I think Waspie has some devious method using nylon string. |
Yup, indeed.
It's a method I was taught when cutting visors on aircrew helmets whilst in the navy!!
You need; thin nylon chord and a candle.
Coat the nylon chord with wax from the candle.
Mark the line to be cut.
Place the nylon around your fingers like you were flossing your teeth, keeping slight pressure on the chord, use a sawing motion to slice through the perspex. The cut is so fine and rarely needs filing to smooth the edges.
A word of caution though, like all things, practice makes perfect, I wouldn't just dive straight in on an expensive screen. And keep the nylon waxed. |
|  | | Old Limey Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 171 Age: 67 Location: BOLTON LANCASHIRE ENGLAND Points: 912 Registration date: 2010-06-09
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Tue May 10, 2011 7:37 am | |
| Thanks for the advice, iam abit anxious about cutting at all. I'll have a big thunk about whats been advised before i do anything. |
|  | | "Hi Yo" Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 860 Age: 63 Location: North Texas Points: 1834 Registration date: 2010-02-17
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Tue May 10, 2011 11:40 am | |
| I had the problem of my eyesight line was at the top edge of the aftermarket (Givi) screen, I bought a gel seat pad and now the line of sight is above the screen. I think your idea of thinking about what works best for you is best. Too often people see something on another bike and that's what they want without considering if it fits their needs and lifestyle. Just my 2c's woth. |
|  | | Meldrew Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 602 Age: 61 Location: Cumbria, England UK Points: 1163 Registration date: 2010-11-16
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Tue May 10, 2011 12:18 pm | |
| I fitted a Biondi screen to a 400 Burgman that was too high, I'm 5' 11" and had the same problems as you're having now with the Givi DT. If I'd bought a jig saw, I'd have probably made a right cock of cutting the screen, so I made a cardboard template of my Airhawk Medium Cruiser seat and cut out pieces of 1" thick camping mat to put inside the Airhawk cover, to raise me up higher.
I used 2 and sometimes 3 layers inside the cover and it worked pretty well, I occasionally had to stick my head out into the wind to clear raindrops of my visor in heavy rain. and I had no problems putting my feet down either.
That's why I opted for the Givi Airflow when replacing the stock screen, it's 2" shorter than the DT version you have. |
|  | | edbancro Maxi-Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 158 Location: Western Pennsylvania Points: 1115 Registration date: 2009-10-30
 | |  | | DickO Silver Wing Rider


Number of posts: 480 Age: 67 Location: Harveyville, Kansas (SW of Topeka) Points: 1776 Registration date: 2008-12-23
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Wed May 11, 2011 1:42 pm | |
| Hi "Limey", Just wanted to throw my 2 pennies worth in here for another variable. I've had the tall Givi screen on my SWing now for nearly three years. My only deficiency came one damp morning when I tried to ride through some sparse fog. Had to stop and clear it off of course. Made my mind up that I'd turn around and head home if it didn't get better; luckily it cleared off. In an absolute "pinch", I can stretch myself up far enough to view the road over the screen (even being 5' - 8" tall). But I bought the screen just so I "could" look through it. As for riding in the rain, I've never had any problems looking thru the screen. Maybe this is because I always clean it with "Plexus", which tends to let the rain roll right off much like 'Rainex" on auto windows. This was tested during an all day rain event on a Patriot Guard mission in eastern Kansas, i.e., 300 mile round trip in heavy (and I emphasize heavy) thunderstorms for more than half that mission. My point is, I was gladly looking thru the screen with (comparatively) no vision problems and avoiding the added wet blast. That worked great for me. |
|  | | buddy19520 Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 286 Location: Cornelius NC Points: 1129 Registration date: 2010-02-27
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Wed May 11, 2011 8:33 pm | |
| Don't be afraid to cut the screen to size.
I cut my GIVI twice to get the height right. On my little scooters (first a Chinese machine, now a Vespa) I made my own screen twice. Acrylic is nice because it does not scratch easily (most motorcycle screens are acrylic), but Lexan/polycarbonate is much stronger.
Each time I have cut using a battery powered (18 volt) jigsaw with a metal cutting blade (26 teeth per inch - 22-24 teeth may also work well). Cut as quick as the blade with let you without forcing the cut.
Protect the surface of the screen by taping painter's tape over the top 3-4 inches. Draw your cutting line on the tape. To get your shape, tape cardboard to your existing screen and trace the top edge. Then reposition the cardboard and draw your line. If you happen to have a scribe it would make the job a breeze.
Finish the edge with a sanding block - coarse first, then finer.
Even after cutting the top, I ended up using a Laminar Lip. It really helps to push the air over your head. Also, for the summer, I use the stock screen with the LL so I get some breeze on my arms. (But then, we get 90 degree days here!) |
|  | | Old Limey Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 171 Age: 67 Location: BOLTON LANCASHIRE ENGLAND Points: 912 Registration date: 2010-06-09
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Thu May 12, 2011 4:03 am | |
| Well!, after my big thunk and reading your advice. I decided to bite the bullet and cut the screen. I found i still had my original small screen off my Deauville, so something to practice on re: Waspies advice. I do have a jigsaw, but like Meldrew, i would probably end up minus a couple of Fingers. Looking in my assortment of cutting tools i saw a cutting disk calleed a Du-All disc. I bought this some years ago off a shopping channel,I remember cutting tiles and bricks with it .I tried it on the Deauville screen and it cut it no problem.After marking out as Buddy19520 suggested, i could not face taking the screen off again so i cut it in situ. It worked great and i now have a 2" smaller screen. Not tried it out on the road yet, but i will if it stops raining, thanks again for everyones input. |
|  | | Meldrew Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 602 Age: 61 Location: Cumbria, England UK Points: 1163 Registration date: 2010-11-16
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Thu May 12, 2011 4:22 am | |
| As that bloke in the 'A-Team' used to say, "I love it when a plan comes together !" |
|  | | Waspie Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1739 Age: 60 Location: Portland, UK Points: 2905 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Givi screen too high Thu May 12, 2011 4:33 am | |
| | Old Limey wrote: | Well!, after my big thunk and reading your advice. I decided to bite the bullet and cut the screen. I found i still had my original small screen off my Deauville, so something to practice on re: Waspies advice. I do have a jigsaw, but like Meldrew, i would probably end up minus a couple of Fingers. Looking in my assortment of cutting tools i saw a cutting disk calleed a Du-All disc. I bought this some years ago off a shopping channel,I remember cutting tiles and bricks with it .I tried it on the Deauville screen and it cut it no problem.After marking out as Buddy19520 suggested, i could not face taking the screen off again so i cut it in situ. It worked great and i now have a 2" smaller screen. Not tried it out on the road yet, but i will if it stops raining, thanks again for everyones input. |
Great Stuff. It's like all things, that initial start!! Well done. |
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