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redeye Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 151 Age: 51 Location: Maryland Points: 749 Registration date: 2010-10-13
 | Subject: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:20 am | |
| Noticed this video on another forum and posted it here. It includes an interesting review of how motorists perceive (or fail to perceive) an oncoming motorcycle or scooter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQBubilSXU |
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john123 Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 116 Age: 64 Location: Santa Barbara California Points: 981 Registration date: 2010-02-21
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 7:43 am | |
| I installed a head light modulator years ago and must tell you that I feel like I am much more visable and to the point that some people actually think I am a police officer and pull over. They are 100 % legal here in California and I got the blessing from the Californai High Way Patrol before hand. He actually said "I wish more riders would use them" I have never been pulled over but I do get a heads up from a driver once and a while telling me my head kight is on the blink. Ha Ha |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 532 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 9:07 am | |
| It bothers me to see riders completely dressed in black, with black helmets, black visors, on black motorcycles with a minuscule and dimmed rear light, no mirrors, no turning lights and no reflectors on any surface... but in this state, the rules of the road are scarcely, if ever, enforced.
I ride day an night wearing a red helmet, red gloves, a red and black jacket and a high visibility orange vest with thick reflective stripes over the jacket (like the ones you are required to wear on military bases); I will install a headlight modulator and a flashing brake light soon because you can never be too visible on two wheels. |
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Coops666 Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 13 Location: Devon, UK Points: 444 Registration date: 2011-03-24
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 9:49 am | |
| Thanks for the link - I'd not heard of the avoidance weave technique before. One the subject of Youtube SMIDSYs, try this for some light relief |
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DuggleBogey Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 326 Age: 44 Location: Middle Tennessee Points: 1085 Registration date: 2010-06-05
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 11:09 am | |
| Someone asked me that a few days ago. "Why do so many bikers wear black? It's both hot and hard to see, isn't it?"
I didn't really have an answer. My bike is black but my helmet is chrome and I don't wear black, mostly because of the heat here in the south.
"I guess they think it looks cool," was the only thing I could think of. "Being perceived as cool is very important to a lot of people." |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2866 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 11:22 am | |
| Black doesn't show the dirt.  _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1737 Age: 60 Location: Portland, UK Points: 2902 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 12:16 pm | |
| I believe that M/C clothing is a hang up from the good ole days of leathers.
Leathers were predominantly black, until recently clothing designers for motorcyclists made their wares in black. My theory!!!
My clothing is black albeit I cover the jacket in a hi-vis waistcoat. My wife's jacket is silver.
As UK laws on lighting is pretty tight, (referring here to the modulator), I tend to ride with main beam on during the daylight hours. At night I respect the light regulations and use dipped beam then switch to main when I can. |
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DuggleBogey Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 326 Age: 44 Location: Middle Tennessee Points: 1085 Registration date: 2010-06-05
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 12:40 pm | |
| | MikeO wrote: | Black doesn't show the dirt.  |
Or the blood? |
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masscoot Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 343 Location: Central New England Points: 1513 Registration date: 2009-03-24
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 3:15 pm | |
| I use the Smidsy technique all the time. I used to have a dark visor but switched back to clear, I want to make positive eye contact with the other drivers. My gear is black, but I have installed plenty of extra marker lights that are on all the time. On the bow I have a extra pair of driving lights and on the stern a brake light modulator and auxillary top box lights (similar to admore). I also fly a 6x9 US flag, this gives additional visual movement to the rear of the bike that is eye catching. I am not a fan of hi-vis but this season I am adding a hi-vis mesh vest over my jacket. It just makes sense, |
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u p tom Maxi-Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 108 Location: marquette michigan Points: 1313 Registration date: 2009-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 8:23 pm | |
| most harley riders wear leather... because chiffon wrinkles too easily |
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honda_silver Site Admin

Number of posts: 2254 Age: 51 Location: Georgetown, Tx Points: 3598 Registration date: 2008-12-23
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 8:52 pm | |
| | u p tom wrote: | | most harley riders wear leather... because chiffon wrinkles too easily |
_________________ Bill - Georgetown TX 07 Silver Wing ABS Clearview w/vent, Givi E96/TB19/E52 with Admore Lighting, Alaskan Leather, Wrist Rests, 3M Solas tape, K&N air, Hyperpro spring, Grip Puppies, Airhawk, Utopia backrest, Stebel, Apexcone HIDs, StingerZ LEDs (w/Backoff WigWag), Knight Rider Sequential LED, NGK Iridium, Power Commander III, Manic Salamander, Saeng mirrors, Garmin Zumo 660, Dark-Side Sumitomo Tire  |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 532 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Tue May 10, 2011 8:58 pm | |
| | masscoot wrote: | | I use the Smidsy technique all the time. I used to have a dark visor but switched back to clear, I want to make positive eye contact with the other drivers. My gear is black, but I have installed plenty of extra marker lights that are on all the time. On the bow I have a extra pair of driving lights and on the stern a brake light modulator and auxillary top box lights (similar to admore). I also fly a 6x9 US flag, this gives additional visual movement to the rear of the bike that is eye catching. I am not a fan of hi-vis but this season I am adding a hi-vis mesh vest over my jacket. It just makes sense, |
If you find a hi-vis mesh vest with a zipper, let me know; mine is solid fabric and it is starting to get too hot as it covers the air scoop on my jacket. |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2866 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 2:03 am | |
| Have a Google - thousands there. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Meldrew Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 601 Age: 61 Location: Cumbria, England UK Points: 1161 Registration date: 2010-11-16
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 3:09 am | |
| I really can' t imagine an American saying ''Sorry mate, I didn't see you.'' Don't you say buddy or mack instead? Or is it '' Hey asshole, look what ya done to my car!'' |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 532 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 4:27 am | |
| | Meldrew wrote: | I really can' t imagine an American saying ''Sorry mate, I didn't see you.'' Don't you say buddy or mack instead? Or is it '' Hey asshole, look what ya done to my car!'' |
jejeje, very true |
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Darkeswinger Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 35 Location: Southwest Ohio Points: 760 Registration date: 2010-06-11
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 8:54 am | |
| http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=safety+vest&ic=48_0&Find=Find&search_constraint=0
for low cost high vis vests |
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masscoot Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 343 Location: Central New England Points: 1513 Registration date: 2009-03-24
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 12:23 pm | |
| This $9 Wally World version is mesh. |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 532 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 1:53 pm | |
| I know there are thousands of vests out there; I have a Vega military spec one but I'm not happy with the flapping around the shoulders. Most of them are too loose, specially the "construction" type. also, velcro closing is not what I'd prefer.
I have seen the Oxford vest, it has elastic panels and is advertised as fitted to the riding jacket. |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2866 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 2:04 pm | |
| It's very difficult selecting gear for other riders to wear. I have a HiViz H-belt which I can wear over any of my bike jackets: http://www.oxford-shop.co.uk/item3298.htm I've just Googled motorcycle mesh hi viz. There are lots which are specifically for bikers and they have zips. The drawback is that they are expensive. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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buddy19520 Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 286 Location: Cornelius NC Points: 1128 Registration date: 2010-02-27
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Wed May 11, 2011 8:20 pm | |
| I just had a driver SMIDSY me Saturday.
I was on the way to a poker run, travelling in a 35 mph zone. I was following three cars, and as soon as the car in front of me cleared the intersection a driver turned left in front of me. I hit both brakes, locking the back for a fraction of a second, and missed his rear bumper by about 5 feet. Once I knew I was not going to hit him, I hit my horn. Was he ever surprised! He was so intent on the cars, he did not even know I was there.
Normally I go a few miles before turning on my auxiliary lights to allow the battery to recharge a bit. I think I am going to just turn them on before I pull out of the garage. Many times in the past I have done the "weave", but it was just too early in the morning to be at my best that day. |
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Old Limey Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 170 Age: 67 Location: BOLTON LANCASHIRE ENGLAND Points: 910 Registration date: 2010-06-09
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Thu May 12, 2011 4:41 am | |
| I wear a Sam-Bright belt, had it at least 20yrs. Riding to work most motorists got out of the way as they thought i was police. |
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mooredportside Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 16 Points: 392 Registration date: 2011-05-12
 | Subject: Re: Motorcycle Visibility - The SMIDSY Thu May 12, 2011 6:52 pm | |
| Some org in Europe did a study that found wearing a white helmet made you 35% less likely to have an accident with another vehicle. |
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