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PostSubject: Re: Hopefull redesign?   Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:31 pm

BlackFly wrote:
Why do they only a little update of the Silver Wing that they are looking like a Burgman? Of course the Silver Wing is a good Scooter but the top dog in this segment is the Burgman 650. Why? Because of its technology, the SECVT. The buyers don't want the "old and simple" Variomatic that they know from the 50ccm "kid toy" Scooters!
Honda have also a technology like the SECVT: The HFT from the DN-01
Why do they don't build this in a Silver Wing and do also the "little update" but please don't make the Silver Wing lokking like a Burgman! The Silver Wing should be an independent Scooter and not only a copy of a Burgman!


I think the market is different in Germany/EU than it is in the USA. In the USA, it's mostly old farts that no longer care what they look like when riding that buy these things - they are riding it because it meets their needs better than a cruiser. In the EU, I am guessing that the average age of a maxi-scooter owner is probably lower. Younger folks like to keep up with what is "newer and better", and will choose it over old-school technology.

Also, if they added the HFT transmission, the price would probably jump considerably. One reason the haven't updated it a lot is probably because it doesn't sell in large quantities. If the price jumps because of the fancy tranny, even fewer people would buy it.

Just a couple of random thoughts.

BTW Blackfly, your English is great. I would love to be able to read/write another language as well as you do English.
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PostSubject: Re: Hopefull redesign?   Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:06 pm

I'm 32years old and also in Germany a youngster on Silver Wing Wink
On Burgman 650 you will find more young people but in germany the young guys normaly ride bikes and scooters mostly have only 125ccm. The 300 and 400ccm are also popular but the really big scooters are rare and mostly ridden by the "old farts".
In other european countrys is another situation (take a look to Paris for example) but you can see that the "high tech" SECVT beats the "oldschool" Variomatic in nearly every european country (except italy, there is and will be forever Piaggio the leader): In Germany the Silver Wing was a long time not available because they don't sell it. The Burgman don't have this problem...

But i indeed that the EU and US market seems to be a complete different world. But the old US farts don't like the smooth cruising that is possible with the HFT because of the situation depending regulating? But i also think that the US mindset is a little bit more old school i can see this also in comparisation of the Boeing and Airbus Aircrafts complete different worlds Wink

And thanks for the flowers Smile I'm working on aircrafts and all the documentation is in english, therefore i have to work with technical english but i think my smalltalk needs a little bit more excerise. It's also a good training here and i bought also the complete Harry Potter Series in English after i read all the books in german several times Wink
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