Bigbird,

I am planning on adding a Kisan headlight modulator on my 09. I see you have one on yours. When I looked at Kisan' site for the correct part number, there is P115W-D and there is P115W-DHL for the silverwing. I think it is P115W-DHL. What did you put on your swing?

Anyone else who has input on this I will welcome your input.

Thanks.

I have half a P115W-D modulator on my Silverwing. It's connected to the high beam lamp only. I had a left over modulator from my previous Goldwing after I sold it so installed it on my scooter. I tried modulating both lights and just the high beam and decided on just modulating the high beam light. I mounted the sensor in front of the windshield about halfway between the base of the windshield and the top of the vent.
I've been using a modulator for the past six years and can vouch for the fact that they get attention. On more than one occasion a car has started to pull out from a side road and then stopped suddenly when they spotted that flashing light. Once in awhile someone pulls over to let me by thinking I'm riding an emergency vehicle. I don't like people mistaking me for a motorcop but at least theys saw me. I doubt you can put anything on a bike that will improve the safety of the rider any better than a modulator.

Exavid thanks for your input. Bob has a modulator on his bike and swears by it. I believe he has ordered the P115W-DHL. It was kind of confusing the picture they showed on the website.

Exdavid... I have the modulating HL and love it. Like you I have had vehicles stop after seeingg them. A friend of mine here in town even told me that he almost pulled out once but saw the flashing so, he waited for me to pass.

I put the modulation right under "HELMET" for accessories to add for safety.

Interesting observations. The main reason that I have not installed a headlight modulator is how a flashing headlight is interpreted. In many situations, a rider/driver appearing to flash his or her headlights is interpreted by oncoming drivers as, "You go first, and I'll adjust to your movements." In the circumstances you are describing above, this would be the wrong message.

For instance, if I'm at a four-way stop intersection, and there is a pickup truck driver to my right, a quick flash of my high beams tells him to proceed so we don't enter the intersection at the same time. Although constant modulation of the high beams isn't the same thing, I'm concerned as much about what the oncoming driver perceives as what I'm trying to communicate.

Good though Steve. For me, just being seen and creating a cushion of "interpretation" time is a good thing. I can wait a long time at a four way for intersection to clear. It is the approaching vehicle that is going to make a left turn right into my face that I want to get the attention of. More and more modulating headlights are becoming common on the road today. And as motorist are more familiar with them, they will communicate "SEE ME".

No safety mod will stop all accidents. We still have to be alert to the dangers out there. Drive safe.

Thanks, Gary. That seems a well reasoned approach to the issue. I like Dale's comment (darned personal responsibility!) but ultimately there are few if any "all or nothing" solutions. Safety measures are about reducing the probability of accidents knowing we can never drive the probability all the way down to zero and still keep doing what we enjoy so much.

I'm confused! Is the D or the DHL the one to buy?

I always ride with my Hi-Beam on.

The correct part # is P115W-DHL with the PA-H4 adapters.

Even though our bulbs are H7, the H4 adapter is recommended by Kisan. The reason is that our H7 bulbs fit better into the H4 adapters. The H4 adapter has 3 slots, the H7 bulb has 2 prongs, so obviously one slot on the H4 adapter is left empty and unused.

BTW, I didn't order direct from Kisan, as they were too pricey.
I ordered from these guys:

http://www.motoshop.net/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AIM&Product_Code=KSP115WDHL-ATT

They have free shipping and seemed like they knew what they were talking about on the phone.

Thanks for the info bigbird!

The D... I have the SD unit. Here is a link to look at... This works great and is a lot less expensive.

Just for your consideration. I get no commission.

http://signaldynamics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=35&category_id=14&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=77&vmcchk=1&Itemid=77

Not knocking SD at all, but the reason they are a lot cheaper is because they require splicing into the existing headlight wiring. Opalsboy, I, and many others might have no problem with that. But for people without test lights or the wiring diagram from the service manual and no wiring experience, this may present as a daunting procedure.

Kisan is strictly plug and play, no splicing required.

The D and CathyN need to know that.

Thanks everyone. Bob ordered the P115W-DHL. Bigbird I will show him your post about the PA-H4 adapter. It makes sense to me now. Bob works with electrical diagrams etc. in his work. So he is very good with electrical issues. Me I'll be the one looking like a power ranger. I have no clue.

All of you on this forum are very helpful and it makes all these improvements on our swings easier for all of us to enjoy the ride.

Thanks again Guys.

Thanks for that information Big Guy... I had a special tool in my box for installation of my modulator. It is very special but not too hard to find... called DennisB. He installed mine while doing the Steble horn, Givi adjustable windshield and some other things last fall. I helped a little. I believe I could have done the wiring myself with just a little help from Dennis or someone like you that could tell me which wire to tap. Dennis has sent me some very good wiring diagrams in the past for other things.

Any way... having the hint about all the options (spicing wires, matching wires, cost ect.) before making an investment in any mod is what makes this forum so special. I would only recommend the SD, not INSIST that it is the only option. It does a very good job, if you can install or have it installed.

One good thing about the plug and play Kisan is that if you change bikes you can take the modulator off and put it on another.

The way I set up Gary's headlight modulator makes it a true Plug and Play. It just plugs into the 2 halves of the stock Honda front cowling 9 pin connector. The flasher unit is Velcroed onto the back of the head light housing on a flat area that is just perfect for this application. Seems to work well.

Dennis said: Seems to work well.

Gary says: " Yep".

Is the H4 adapter part of the kit, or do they need to be ordered separately?