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PostSubject: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:17 pm

I just ordered/received a Givi D214DT windshield (higher than stock) for my 2009 Silverwing. It looks great and looks like it will be an easy install. However, there is a sticker on the windshield saying to not exceed 100km/hr (62 mph). Huh??? Is this windshield only good at low speeds? Does anyone have experience with this windshield at highway speeds? Here in AZ, Hwy 10 speed limit is 75 and many people are going 85 and faster... Am interested in a higher windshield, but not in developing windshield problems at that speed. Givi says the warning is required by lawyers but the windshield is safe (they say it, they don't put it in writing...). Any feedback will be appreciated! Question
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:42 pm

I had that windshield installed last summer for several months. I had my Swing up to 125 km/h with it and experienced no problems. I wasn't concerned with that warning in the least.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:44 pm

I've had one for at least two years. While I seldom ride REALLY fast, it has been more than adequate at interstate speeds here in Colorado (thin air helps the wind screen???). I don't think that you will experience any problems at 85 +/- mph. flower flower
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:48 pm

I had mine up to 75 MPH on interstates several times... no problem. I always go at least 60 MPH on state highways here. Sticker may be a CYOB notice.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:59 am

Thank you for sharing your experiences with this windshield. I think I'll put it on my scooter and take it for a spin... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:37 pm

I've got the tall (taller than stock at least) Givi shield on my Swing and I'm always looking thru it. Have been to 90 and 95 on a few unnecessary occasions and "many" miles at 75 and 80 mph on the interstates with no ill effects whatsoever. Mine is going on 3 years old now and I don't remember that warning you're talking about. Good Luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:48 pm

Lyle, double check that sticker!

I have something very similar on mine which is a French made screen. It actually says 'do not exceed 100 kph in strong cross winds', but the wording and punctuation don't make it very clear as I read it exactly as you have done the first time I examined the lable. Initally, I thought whats the point of having a bigger screen if I have to ride slower!!!! But having re-read it I worked out what it meant Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:45 pm

I just ordered one of these windshields for my silverwing. For those of you who have already used them, do they decrease the buffeting and wind noise any? This was my primary reasoning for getting one. Looks like everyone seems to be pleased with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:17 pm

I installed mine about a month ago and am very pleased. The only problem for me is I am looking through the top of the shield and not over it which is usually reccomended. I am still considering seat options, so I don't want to cut it down at this time. I haven't ridden in the rain, but I really like the way the wind is redirected. There are a number of discussions on installation which helped me. I think you will like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:01 am

I like my screen, it certainly has cut down both the wind noise and the weather.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:55 pm

smorkle,

It will be much quieter than the stock and makes the ride much nicer IMO. I also wouldn't worry about the 100kph sticker either (Lyle's O.P.). I had mine up to 102 mph (gps) and it was rock solid. I have had the stock, Givi, Clearview XL and now the Givi Airflow ...and the standard Givi was rock solid.

Hi Yo,

If you are thinking of a gel pad or air hawk pad, they have a reallly nice gel Pad at Walmart for only $20. I used that for quite a few years and my wife still uses it when she does ride with me. It is a big improvement over the stock seat and you would want to get a pad before you cut your shield too. I cut mine done about 1 1/2" and I think I cut it too much. But the Givi's are a tall shield and I'm 6' tall with a longer than average Torso.

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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:50 am

Does anyone know of a better price for it? i found it at premier cycle acc. out of Ohio for$94.50
My first ride of any distance yesterday was completely miserable with the stock shield. The wind noise was actually higher than anything i have ridden before, and may be a deal breaker for me.
Is the adjustable airflow screen that much better?
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:20 am

To JeffR

Do you have the model number or UPC code for the gel seat at Walmart. I been looking for them at Walmart and don't seem to be having any luck. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:56 am

I am not Jeffr, but this is the gel seat cushion...

Comfort Products Inc.

PO box 999 Memphis,TN 31801

1-800-971-4630

It is a Gel Seat Cushion There is a number 60-2865W above the bar code label. There is a number 46854014287 below the bar code.

One other thing. The Brand may be RelaXzen

Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:57 am

I think you are overlooking the basic danger of shield-----looking thru can get you killed----try riding into sunset/bugs/snow/rain/sleet/dirt with a look thru plastic screen. Just too dangerous and probably too tiring on long trip.

John Grinsel
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:59 pm

I got my windshield delivery today and it took no time to install. I really like the look of it, but it turned winter here again so riding will probably be next week some time.

I will have to look through the windshield to ride now, which i think is the idea of it being 4" taller. I disagree that riding like that will get you killed. Even if you have a short windshield you should still be wearing a face shield that will also get sunset/bugs/snow/rain/sleet/dirt on it creating the same situation. I don't ride in the snow and sleet ever and dirt and bugs get on my face shield anyhow and riding into the sun is just it's own problem.

I'll report back again when I've ridden some with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:08 am

I suspect that the 'problems' of looking through the screen rather than just a visor are that the visor can easily be wiped 'on the move' whereas the screen can't - hence why cars have windscreen wipers.

Just my thoughts.

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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:42 am

I used to have a tall Biondi windshield on my 400 Burgman K6 that was too high for me, and I'm 5' 11". Rather than try and cut down the windshield, I opted for the lazy way and built up my Airflow seat cushion with layers of sleeping mat so I could look over the windshield.

It worked pretty well in daylight, it was comfortable, and riding in rain I would occasionally move my head from behind the windshield to clear the build up of water droplets from my visor/face shield rather than wiping it with a gloved hand. The windshield would also get very dirty or "clarty" (old Cumberland word!) with the spray thrown up from truck wheels, so if I had to look through it, visibility would be much reduced.

At night time looking through it in the rain, I had exactly the same view you'd have looking through a cars windshield without the wipers on, headlight glare being made much worse by water droplets, road crap, and any tiny scratches on the shield. I'd also have increased face shield misting in those conditions. So the height of the Biondi was an advantage in the dry, it was a pain in the arse when it rained.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:40 pm

I finally had a day where I was able to ride so I tried out my new windshield. I was VERY satisfied with the reduction of wind noise. I was able to turn my radio down and still hear it now. Very happy about that. I took it down the interstate a couple miles and was still able to hear. It makes a world of difference.

The one thing I didn't like is that the very top of the windshield is right in my field of vision. If it were taller or shorter it'd be better because I keep looking over it, then through it, then over, then through and that messes with my perception a bit. Maybe I should look into doing something to raise myself up an inch or two so that I'll be looking over it the whole time.

All in all I'm pretty pleased with the Givi windshield. It looks more stylish than the stock and blocks more of the wind.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sat May 14, 2011 5:52 pm

Just wanted to update this a little since my last post.

I am very pleased with this windshield, but I have noticed a 2-3 MPG drop in fuel economy since I installed it. I was getting 54-55MPG and now I'm getting 51-52MPG. Maybe I need to give it some tweaks like a new spark plug or something, but I'm thinking the windshield is the deal.

Also I still have done nothing towards looking over or through it. It hasn't really bothered me too much, but sometimes it is annoying. I'm considering cutting the top inch of it off or else trying to raise my sitting position a little bit with a pad or something.

All in all I'm really pleased with this product.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun May 15, 2011 11:59 am

LyleD wrote:
... However, there is a sticker on the windshield saying to not exceed 100km/hr (62 mph). Huh??? Is this windshield only good at low speeds?


I know this is a about a year late... but since this thread revived I figured I would answer your question directly...

I have the 214DT and have had issues with it - I think. Essentially it is fine to about 60 mph. At 70 -75 mph with a 150-20 mph cross wind you start feeling a bit of a sailing effect. A strong gust feels really uncomfortable and is scary, though the bike is still mostly under control.

With no cross wind it seems fine at up to 70-75 as far as handling but it creates a low pressure area that causes the wind to buffet me from behind. Leaning forward to emulate a sport bike rider puts me more in that dead air pocket and reduces the buffeting - but I think I look silly - like I am trying to make the bike go faster - and it is not comfortable for long.

This is discussed some more in anther thread. Someone said they cut theirs down and cut off the side wings that protect the handlebars and that this increased stability on the highway. I am debating doing that and was going to try the stock windscreen - but find I don't have it after all (Bought the bike used and forgot to pick up the stock wind screen).

I am now debating whether to cut off the little side wings on my Givi (they look liie the scoop the air in), drill holes in it to decrease the back pressure or to simply buy the Givi Airflow. That seems a very sensible design.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun May 15, 2011 12:08 pm

MikeO wrote:
I suspect that the 'problems' of looking through the screen rather than just a visor are that the visor can easily be wiped 'on the move' whereas the screen can't - hence why cars have windscreen wipers.


I just saw a pair of bike gloves that had a wiper blade on the thumb. I thought it was a strange gimick - and then got caught in my first light drizzle and wished I had them as I stretched and craned to look over my Givi 214DT, then ducked down behind the Givi to avoid spray from the car in front.... and wiped my face shield with my leather work golves.

Why don't they make wiper blades for motorcycles?
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun May 15, 2011 12:57 pm

Ishkatan, check this link.
http://www.eglidegoodies.com/id217.html
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun May 15, 2011 1:06 pm

Ishkatan
Hear is another link for bike wipers.
http://www.peerclear.com/products
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Sun May 15, 2011 2:33 pm

Thanks Roger,

I may see if it can fit but $299 seems steep, though I can see it being a specialty item. Motorcycle riding is supposed to help you save on gas - but you spend more than the savings on gadgets and maintenance!!! It's almost like owning a sail boat...

The second gizmo looks interesting for emergency situations... might just be the ticket until you can get into a mall or gas station to wait it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon May 16, 2011 9:12 am

Having recently cut down my Givi screen,let me say this, has anyone
ever seen a police bike were they have tolook through the screen?
Try riding in the dark in heavyrain on an unlit road and you will see whatI
mean
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon May 16, 2011 4:44 pm

I agree with Old Limey, having a screen that you look through is hazardous. Imagine driving at night when it's raining and not using the windscreen wipers. All the light from approaching headlights being distorted by the raindrops and tiny scratches on the screen, and the build up of road crud from spray from the vehicles in front of you. How far could you drive like that, not very far that's for sure. You remove that problem in a car with a few strokes of the wipers, looking through a too tall bike or scooter screen in the same conditions, you'd have to really slow down and I bet your bum would be puckering up a bit! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon May 16, 2011 8:32 pm

Meldrew wrote:
I agree with Old Limey, having a screen that you look through is hazardous. Imagine driving at night when it's raining and not using the windscreen wipers. All the light from approaching headlights being distorted by the raindrops and tiny scratches on the screen, and the build up of road crud from spray from the vehicles in front of you. How far could you drive like that, not very far that's for sure. You remove that problem in a car with a few strokes of the wipers, looking through a too tall bike or scooter screen in the same conditions, you'd have to really slow down and I bet your bum would be puckering up a bit! Shocked


Just to play the devils advocate here. How often do you really ride at night, in the driving rain, in traffic, with a mucked up road grimed windshield?

Just sayin.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon May 16, 2011 8:40 pm

Tagg wrote:
How often do you really ride at night, in the driving rain, in traffic, with a mucked up road grimed windshield?


Ride at night - a lot especially during short day light
In the driving rain - when it rains
In traffic - a lot
With a mucked up road grimed windshield - most of the time


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PostSubject: Re: Givi 214DT Windshield Safe on 2009 Silverwing?   Mon May 16, 2011 8:47 pm

And to not play the devils advocate. I wonder if rain x works on plastic? I seem to remember it saying not to apply to plastic? I could be wrong, ill go check right quick.
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