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wingmann Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 36 Age: 55 Location: HAM lake MN. USA Points: 699 Registration date: 2010-08-22
 | Subject: FJS600 and FSC600 Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:48 pm | |
| What is the difference between the FJS600 and the FSC600 |
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dspevack Site Admin

Number of posts: 1142 Age: 47 Location: Miami, FL Points: 2584 Registration date: 2008-12-27
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:18 pm | |
| I believe the J refers to the Japanese model. _________________ I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods hereReality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts. Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality. |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:23 pm | |
| A couple of things from what I have seen. One being side relectors, red on the back and amber on the front fender on the FSC600 and don't forget about the lack of a power outlet on the FSC600 model. Could be a bunch more. |
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Cosmic_Jumper Touring Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 303 Location: damn near Philadelphia, PA Points: 1448 Registration date: 2009-06-12
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:26 pm | |
| The FSC600 is the North American version of the FJC600. The FJC comes equipped with the power outlet in the left storage compartment, the H.I.S.S security system and wired marker lights in the headlight housing. Also the Asian-market FSC has 35 gm variator rollers.
Probably other differences also, but these are the differences I'm most familar with.
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Skippy Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 299 Age: 45 Location: Exeter. Devon. Points: 1002 Registration date: 2010-08-18
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:44 am | |
| As far as I can tell looking at the microfische etc, the main differences are cosmentic and like a lot of bikes produced by Honda, they are given different designations in different markets, because of slight variations in specification. Over here in the UK its listed as the FJS 600 Silverwing, which made it a bit odd the first time I searched ebay in the US, not realising that it was listed as the FSC 600 over there. For example my 1983 Silverwing is designated in full by Honda UK as 'Honda GL 650 Silverwing - D2E', the same bike in Japan and the US is listed as 'Honda GL 700 Interstate'. Oddly enough the engine is neither a 650 nor a 700, its a 673 |
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pippobis2 Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 46 Age: 47 Location: Monza - ITALY Points: 1226 Registration date: 2009-03-14
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:27 am | |
| in Italy, in Europe version FJS is commercialized |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 151 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 728 Registration date: 2010-11-20
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:04 am | |
| I have a FJS600, a german FJS600 Servicemanual with a very bad quality and therefor i bought also a FSC600 Service Manual in good quality.
The (technical) differences i can see on first look: FSJ600 have a immobilizer System (HISS) thats not installed in FSC600 FSC600 have a evaporative emissions control system that is not installed on FJS600. FSC600 have reflectors on front shock absorbers, FSJ600 don't have this. My european FJS600 have also a power Outlet in the left box, i think your US FSC600 don't have this
Thats what i'm seeing on the first fast look to the books... |
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Meldrew Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 602 Age: 61 Location: Cumbria, England UK Points: 1163 Registration date: 2010-11-16
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:45 am | |
| Another small but obvious difference is the UK FJS and US FSC 600 will have their speedometers in mph, and the European and Australian FJS in km/h. |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 151 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 728 Registration date: 2010-11-20
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:56 am | |
| Of course, UK Models (and all others which are driving on the wrong side) will also have another Headlights |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 533 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:40 pm | |
| Cosmic_Jumper mentioned 35g sliders in the variator for Asian markets. Would this give those SW better fuel economy? or just slower, more gradual starts? |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 151 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 728 Registration date: 2010-11-20
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:49 pm | |
| Simple: Lower RPMs, slower acceleration and because of less RPMs also better fuel economy
Not so simple: Complete different shifting behavior, you have to test the effect... |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 533 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:16 pm | |
| Is it possible to get those 35g sliders in the US? |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 151 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 728 Registration date: 2010-11-20
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:42 pm | |
| I'm in germany, but: Yes, why not? Measure the dimensions of the original roller (i don't have it in mind) and go/surf to the next Scooter shop and order Rollers in that dimension with the wanted weight...
Not only Honda have this parts, i think you can get this from nearly every tuner like Malossi or Polini etc |
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alejom Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 64 Location: Atlanta, USA Points: 533 Registration date: 2011-02-18
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:19 am | |
| I exchanged a few email with Paul Wu with DrPulley and he has confirmed that the FJS600 comes with 35g rollers at least in Japan.
On a post in silverwing.org, some where talking about lower rpm's using DrPulley's slider weights as opposite to the roller weights, and according to Paul, the rpm's will be a bit lower with their 28g sliders compared to the stock 28g rollers.
I'm thinking about going with the 32g or 33g sliders to see how it increases my fuel economy; I ride the SW to work every day and in the state where I live, a fast start is not my priority as bikes are not allowed to lane-split and move to the front of the traffic at red lights anyway... |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 151 Age: 33 Location: Germany Points: 728 Registration date: 2010-11-20
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:04 am | |
| I found another difference: FJS600 have a switch for the lights that the FSC600 don't have |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2867 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:25 am | |
| Indeed! One of those crazy EU suggestions that the manufacturers took up.
_________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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tarmacburner2 Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 362 Age: 58 Location: Lancashire, England Points: 1209 Registration date: 2010-03-27
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:05 pm | |
| | BlackFly wrote: | I found another difference: FJS600 have a switch for the lights that the FSC600 don't have |
Blackfly, can you tell me where the switch is please. My headlight comes on when I switch on the ignition. Mine is an FJS600 (2008) Cheers, |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2867 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:08 pm | |
| The older scooters were fitted with a light-switch. My 2002/3 X9 had one but my 2005 X9 didn't although the blanked-off hole was still there. Blackfly's is a 2001 - before the EU thing came in. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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dspevack Site Admin

Number of posts: 1142 Age: 47 Location: Miami, FL Points: 2584 Registration date: 2008-12-27
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:18 pm | |
| I can't say for sure in this situation, but in some countries daytime running lights are an option, so a switch is necessary. _________________ I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods hereReality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts. Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality. |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2867 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:27 pm | |
| It's an option in Europe but the twats in Brussels (EU centre of operations where all the MEPs ride the gravy-train) put forward the idea of making it compulsory to have day-time lights. The manufacturers either couldn't read properly and thought it had been passed into Law or thought they'd save money by not fitting a switch and hard-wire the lights. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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tarmacburner2 Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 362 Age: 58 Location: Lancashire, England Points: 1209 Registration date: 2010-03-27
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:13 pm | |
| At least it saves you from forgetting to turn them on. I have always ridden with dipped lights on during daylight hours. Sometimes my mate had to remind me to switch them on. Not anymore with more modern machinery.
Cheers, |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2160 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3057 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:13 pm | |
| | MikeO wrote: | but the twats in Brussels (EU centre of operations where all the MEPs ride the gravy-train) put forward the idea of making it compulsory to have day-time lights.
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We have had compulsory DRL's (daytime running lights) for 25 years in Canada. Initially, the reaction was the same as yours. But after quickly getting accustomed to them, one realizes how much easier oncoming traffic is to see. On the rare occasion that an American resident drives here without DRL's, you quickly realize how beneficial they are. It's a good thing our twats in Ottawa got it right on this one, for once. |
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Sweendog Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 154 Location: South New Jersey Points: 1215 Registration date: 2009-07-12
 | Subject: Re: FJS600 and FSC600 Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:14 pm | |
| One big difference is that the model over here has an S in the name, and no J. Overseas, you guys get a J, but are deprived of an S. |
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tarmacburner2 Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 362 Age: 58 Location: Lancashire, England Points: 1209 Registration date: 2010-03-27
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