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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:09 am | |
| Hi,
Like the spark plug pictorial I did about a year ago, I also did one for the changing of the belt and pins on my J. Costa variator.
If you read this over you should have no problem doing this work yourself. The pictures provide a step-by-step "Pictorial" on how go change out the belt and the pins of the J. Costa. If you are changing out the rollers of your stock variator this will guide you through it too.
Ride safe,
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_________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt 
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honda_silver Site Admin

Number of posts: 2249 Age: 51 Location: Georgetown, Tx Points: 3592 Registration date: 2008-12-23
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:40 am | |
| | JeffR wrote: | Like the spark plug pictorial I did about a year ago, I also did one for the changing of the belt and pins on my J. Costa variator. This was also sent to Matt at scootertrap.com to put on his website. I also put this on other sites too. Here is the link:
http://scootertrap.com/Silverwingbeltandpinchange.pdf
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Thanks. I had wanted to switch my belt over the Christmas holiday ... but I had to wait till I could get his pictorial |
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DenGraham Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 65 Age: 65 Location: The Gardens RV Village, Crossville TN Points: 1267 Registration date: 2008-12-23
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:30 pm | |
| Jeff, This is the best post I have ever seen. I want to thank you for helping so many people by taking the time to photograph and make all the notations. You certainly have encouraged me to do the work myself and to upgrade the the J. Costa. I was just going to tear into it to clean it but, gee, I'm there anyway; so why not change out the variator--- (OH, I'm sorry I'm practicing what to say to my wife). >> Dennis |
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paul_scooter Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 80 Location: Prescott Arizona Points: 1309 Registration date: 2008-12-23
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:39 pm | |
| I have the Malossi Multivar 2000. Awhile ago i made a video of the variator in operation. You can see the video at the below link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tdVY6Kone4 |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:15 pm | |
| Dennis,
Thanks for the compliment for the Pictorial. I hope it helps you and others. If you have any questions please come back to me and maybe I can help. And if you find something in the Pictorial should be changed when you install your J. Costa please tell me that too.
Paul,
I have seen your post before and it is pretty cool. A lot of people have never seen the variator in action. Thanks for sharing.
Ride safe,
JeffR _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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Pete H Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 49 Location: San Antonio, TX. Points: 1208 Registration date: 2009-04-01
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:32 pm | |
| Note: Though this is the proper way to change the drive belt-at the Honda dealer they don't do all that all they do is stick an air ratchet on the pully unscrew it put a new belt on and then use the air ratchet to put the pully back on. The whole process that the Honda dealer about 10 seconds. |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:19 pm | |
| Pete, When you say "they put a air ratchet on the pully", are you talking about the variator? _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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Pete H Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 49 Location: San Antonio, TX. Points: 1208 Registration date: 2009-04-01
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| Yes I mean the 17 mm nut that holds the variator in place. I am simply saying that if you go to the Honda place during Daytona Bike Week with a busted drive belt they tell you to remove the three covers yourself in the parking lot then they wheel the bike into the shop and they don't go through so many steps. They simply unscrew the variator with a 35,000 rpm air ratchet slap your new drive belt on and screw the variator back on with an air ratchet. This whole process takes them less than 10 seconds and at Daytona Bike Week they are doing this all day every day! You absolutely gave the correct procedure but at Daytona Bike Week they (The Honda Place) are working on 700,000 bikes a week and they don't have time for all that! |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:32 pm | |
| I use an impact gun too and it doesn't take long at all to get it off, but to remove the variator and then put it back on with the belt takes longer. The time consuming part if getting all the covers off. _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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dickie Maxi-Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 198 Location: Virginia Points: 1411 Registration date: 2008-12-24
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:47 pm | |
| Jeff, Thanks a bunch for doing these photo shoots for us. Dick |
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Cornishman Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 181 Age: 58 Location: Wiltshire UK Points: 1350 Registration date: 2009-04-04
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:21 am | |
| A very useful post, thank you. |
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kenny Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 5 Age: 67 Location: eufaula Points: 1142 Registration date: 2009-04-13
 | Subject: how do you put a belt on sw? Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:47 pm | |
| | DenGraham wrote: | Jeff, This is the best post I have ever seen. I want to thank you for helping so many people by taking the time to photograph and make all the notations. You certainly have encouraged me to do the work myself and to upgrade the the J. Costa. I was just going to tear into it to clean it but, gee, I'm there anyway; so why not change out the variator--- (OH, I'm sorry I'm practicing what to say to my wife). >> Dennis |
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kenny Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 5 Age: 67 Location: eufaula Points: 1142 Registration date: 2009-04-13
 | Subject: I need help on replaceing belt on SW Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:25 pm | |
| | JeffR wrote: | Hi,
Like the spark plug pictorial I did about a year ago, I also did one for the changing of the belt and pins on my J. Costa variator. This was also sent to Matt at scootertrap.com to put on his website. I also put this on other sites too. Here is the link:
http://scootertrap.com/Silverwingbeltandpinchange.pdf
http://www.4shared.com4shared.com/file/77483927/844fdf75/J_Costa_Pin_Replacement_and_Belt_Replacement_612kb.html (this is the same link but from the File Sharing Site. I'm playing with this site to see how well it works for us).
Ride safe,
JeffR |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:58 pm | |
| Kenny, Did you have a question or comment in the last couple of posts? I didn't know if you was wanting go know something about the pictorials. Thanks. _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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kenny Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 5 Age: 67 Location: eufaula Points: 1142 Registration date: 2009-04-13
 | Subject: yes I need info on belt replaceing Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:54 am | |
| | JeffR wrote: | Kenny,
Did you have a question or comment in the last couple of posts? I didn't know if you was wanting go know something about the pictorials. Thanks. |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:13 am | |
| Kenny, What info do you need? _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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kenny Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 5 Age: 67 Location: eufaula Points: 1142 Registration date: 2009-04-13
 | Subject: belt repair Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:39 am | |
| | JeffR wrote: | Kenny,I would guess you onlt remove one pully the one on the engine or the one on the wheel but which one. mine is still ok but i know it is something i will need to know.
[ quote] | What info do you need?[/quote] |
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masscoot Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 343 Location: Central New England Points: 1512 Registration date: 2009-03-24
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:46 am | |
| Jeff, once again your patience while doing these repairs are a great help to us. Each time I start doing a pictoral repair, I start off great taking pics then I forget and next thing you know its all back together. I end up with lots of pictures of the begining of the job, none of the middle (the end is just the reverse of the begining). Thanks again.
While we are talking about pictorial how to's, I saw the one about the coolant drain and refill, but something on brakes (pad replacemnet, fluid drain and refill/bleed)would be nice. |
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sw2009 Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 9 Points: 1016 Registration date: 2009-08-25
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:20 am | |
| Jeff R. -
Your many posts and pictorials are wonderful for a guy like me. I am a new SW owner and not a mechanic. I certainly appreciate the help your posts provide.
Jim from Stanwood, WA. |
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MikeH Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 74 Location: Eden, Utah Points: 1199 Registration date: 2009-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:06 am | |
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Jim Cater Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 53 Age: 52 Location: Atlanta, GA Points: 821 Registration date: 2010-04-20
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:15 pm | |
| I think you've found a new calling Jeff!! Need to make you the tech editor of "S'winger" magazine!!  Can you just see the neighbors looks when you go to the mailbox!!??!! Hahahaha  |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:33 pm | |
| Hey Jim, I'm glad the Pictorial helped. It would be nice to put a magazine out and I have thought about it at times. There really isn't a "Touring Scooter" type of magazine out there right now. It woudl be fun. _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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xbgc25a Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 3 Points: 694 Registration date: 2010-07-01
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:24 pm | |
| Hey Jeff, Is there a gasket between the two pieces of the aluminum casing? And where do I find belts and parts?
How do I get a picture into my profile?
Tommy |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:18 pm | |
| _________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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Hammy Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 337 Age: 35 Location: Philadelphia, PA Points: 1095 Registration date: 2010-05-22
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:05 pm | |
| My second time replacing the belt was much more difficult than the first time because I was unable to get the top half of the variator pulley fully onto the spline. It wasn't until Cosmic Jumper told me to tighten the 17mm nut with a ratchet and socket and keep spinning the variator forward and tightening again that I was able to slowly work the plate fully onto the spline then bang bang bang with the digiwrench (I love that thing!). So just in case anyone has the same difficulty I did getting the plate on (mine only got on 1/3 of the way onto the spline), use a ratchet and socket. |
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papa johns Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 96 Points: 852 Registration date: 2010-06-15
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:44 pm | |
| At the cost of showing my ignorance why would I want a J Costa Variator over the Honda stock? what performance difference will I experience? The J Coasta link Here that I watch was excellent. |
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papa johns Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 96 Points: 852 Registration date: 2010-06-15
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:48 pm | |
| I'm Picking up the new Belt Wednesday along with an air filter I'm at 21,000 |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2153 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3048 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| | papa johns wrote: | At the cost of showing my ignorance why would I want a J Costa Variator over the Honda stock? what performance difference will I experience? The J Coasta link Here that I watch was excellent. |
There's many threads here about the J. Costa. Do a search and read for hours. |
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JeffR Site Admin

Number of posts: 1672 Age: 52 Location: Fremont, Ca Points: 2941 Registration date: 2008-12-19
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:24 pm | |
| | papa johns wrote: | At the cost of showing my ignorance why would I want a J Costa Variator over the Honda stock? what performance difference will I experience? The J Coasta link Here that I watch was excellent. |
Papajohn,
The J. Costa is an aftermarket variator that gives a big performance boost and even smooths out the SWing more, and it is smooth to begin with. Instead of rollers it uses pins and it seemed I had to change mine about every 9,000 miles, but I'm sure I could have gone another 1,000 to 2,000 miles. You can do a search on the site to get more info but they are good and my rpm's would decrease after I went past 80mph indicated. They cost about $280 to buy and if you want a big increase in acceleration than this is the thing to get._________________ Ride safe, JeffR 2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles) 2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles) 2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles) Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt  |
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Hammy Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 337 Age: 35 Location: Philadelphia, PA Points: 1095 Registration date: 2010-05-22
 | Subject: Re: Variator and Belt Pictorial Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:13 pm | |
| Cosmic Jumper just sent me this link to a youtube video that shows a really easy way to remove the variator nut without the variator tool or impact wrench. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_4xK1QCeM&NR=1 It's in... I don't know what language it's in, but the video is pretty self explanatory. Also shows you how easy it is to lose your rollers/sliders when you pull off the variator. |
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