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what type of windshield do you curantly have
Stock
30%
 30% [ 32 ]
Givi
50%
 50% [ 54 ]
Clearview, small
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
med
2%
 2% [ 3 ]
large
1%
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X large
6%
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Other
7%
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cruiser
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PostSubject: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:16 pm

Curious to know how many peaple have changed there
windshields out with after market.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:20 pm

I can only register one vote, but we have two bikes so add one to the stock shields.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:10 pm

I switched mine out to a Givi, not sure which size it is since I bought it used from a guy who offered it to me for $30. Sure do like it better than stock.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:20 pm

Cruiser,

I have the Givi now on my bike and like it. Like I have said in other posts, I think I received a Clearview that just flexes too much, but I've only heard of a few of us that have this problem. There is also another windshield I just found out about:

http://www.7jurock.com/store/index.php

I have read Majesty owners having them and they like them.

But I really like my Givi and plan to keep it on.

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2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt

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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:16 pm

I have the Clearview medium on mine for a few years now and love it.
I like the way it has the two extra mounting screws and the wind deflectors
for the hands.
Paul
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:25 pm

Paul,

I really liked my Clearview too until I started to go over 70 or so... due to the flexing. I may contact Clearview about the flexing and see if they will replace it. But I'm in no hurry at the moment. I think the Clearview does a better job giving wind protection to your hands too.

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2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt

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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:07 pm

I have a stock screen on my 08 as I had on my 03. On either scoot I had no major problems, except it was to hard to use my communication radio at high speeds due to wind noise. I was thinking about getting a different screen this spring and heard about this company.

http://www.ceebaileys.com/honda/silverwingws.html

I like that I can pick hight and width options. As well as tint if I wanted it. I'm still trying to get more feedback from people who use this screen before I make a decision. All I ever hear about is "Givi" or "Clearview". I know they are both fine screens and cost a little less. But I'm a curious person who likes to compare.

Have a great day
bob
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PostSubject: stock windshield or not   Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:31 pm

Hi All,

I just changed over to a new Givi about a week ago but have only had it out on a couple short jaunts. Still, was pleased by not having that damnnable wind beating on my helmet (I do look thru the shield rather than over it and think I prefer it that way). The first time out was just fine with no idiosyncracies noted. However, on the second outing I did notice the small bit of pressure on the back of the helmet that some folks have mentioned before. There again, no big deal; it's just there.

Ride Safe Friends,
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:48 am

I'm so short and with the dealer having lowered my seat twice they think I will have no problems with the windshild. It should blow over the top of my head with ease lol!
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:04 am

I have the stock windshield, but added a Laminar Lip. What a difference! I can still see over, rather than through the windshield but the Lip diverts the airflow so that noise and turbulence are a fraction of what they were before I added this little addition. I highly recommend it and at $80 it is only a fraction of the cost of getting a new windshield.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:34 am

I bought my Swing last July and the stock wind screen put a concentrated blast of air directly in my eyes and ears. (keep in mind I am tall - 6'5") Within a month after I got my bike I put the Givi wind shield on and I love it. What a difference! The Givi doesn't flex noticeably (at least up to 110 mph indicated) and all of the air flows over my head so that I am riding in a bubble of quiet air. It is easy to carry on a conversation with a passenger. The Givi is 4 inches taller than the stock wind screen and it has little extensions that provide coverage in front of your hands, which is nice - especially this time of year.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:09 am

JeffR wrote:
Paul,

I really liked my Clearview too until I started to go over 70 or so... due to the flexing. I may contact Clearview about the flexing and see if they will replace it. But I'm in no hurry at the moment. I think the Clearview does a better job giving wind protection to your hands too.


Jeff,
I read a few post about people saying the clearview flexing at high speed.
I personally don't see or have any flexing problems. The clearview is a little thicker then the stock one and has two extra mounting screews.
Have you checked all the mounting screws to see if their tight?
Paul
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:48 am

I'm part of the Givi crowd.
My only complaint with the Givi is that it is about 1 1/2 or so inches too tall.
I'm afraid that if I ever have to ride in the rain, I'll not be able to since I cannot comfortably look over it.
It is dramatically better than the stock screen.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:00 am

Paul,

Yes, I checked everything but it would start to flex around the point where the vent is. I have only heard of a couple of us where it flex's this bad. When I was doing 90 or more it was almost touching my chin. So I think it is a flaw from the factory not something inherent with all of them. I wished it didn't flex at all because they are nice screens.

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JeffR

2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

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The Scootist
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:46 pm

Jon:
Fortunately here in Colorado it doesn't rain very often (hardly ever lately?). But I have heard of several people who actually trimmed their windshields a bit. You may be able to trim yours if it is a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:43 pm

Givi. When I bought mine it already had the Givi on it so I have no comparison. I like it because it allows me to wear a baseball cap when I ride. Mostly I wear a helmet, but on occasion I will wear just a ball cap.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:49 pm

I was looking for a thread to comment on this subject and although it's been awhile since anyone's posted in this one it seems the best place for discussion.

Like many already commented I too quickly found that the stock windshield just wasn't doing it for me - not the least of which because it was heavily sun damaged.

Originally, I bought the GIVI 214DT because this was most like what I was already familiar with from other bikes. However, after many rides between El Paso, TX and Tempe, AZ I came to realize that it was not the windshield for such conditions. Sudden high velocity wind gusts and sustained high winds eventually convinced me I needed something else. I looked at the GIVI airflow but having read the comments about problems with them including the top part coming off and becoming a danger, I decided instead on the Clearview windshield with vent. I talked on the phone with Mark from Clearview and found him not only very helpful but a real nice guy who was actively interested in how I rode. Together we decided that the light grey medium Clearview was best for me. Not only would the vent help and the size be appropriate but the light grey would also help with the constant glare you get down here. I have yet to make my ride to Tempe since installation but I will be sure to let you know what I find.

So to sum it up, I came to realize that the only right answer is that you just need to be cognizant of how and where you ride to pick a windshield. A big windshield was best for me in New England where I wanted as much protection from cold air as possible so I could extend my riding season. The wind could get going there but nothing like it does down here for so long and on such sweeping open places. A change in tactics was called for and I believe I've found what's best for me now.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:57 pm

I bought the Givi 214 from a fellow forum member. So far I love it! It lowers wind noise, has more hand proiection and is good quality. The height is a benefit and a bad thing as I prefer to look over the windshield. I have not ridden in the rain so, so so far I enjoy the no buffetting ride.
I rarely ride over 65 to 70 so that is my circumstance.
Yes it is a personal choice.

Thanks
bob
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:03 pm

Somerled wrote:
Tlight grey medium Clearview was best for me. Not only would the vent help and the size be appropriate but the light grey would also help with the constant glare you get down here.


I have the same exact windshield except I have an Clearview XL tinted with vent.

Somerled wrote:
I have yet to make my ride to Tempe since installation but I will be sure to let you know what I find.


When do the rides to Tempe stop Smile

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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:20 pm

honda_silver wrote:
When do the rides to Tempe stop Smile


After they finally release me from the Warrior Transition Unit. Months yet ahead as a medical retirement is not a quick thing. I have plenty of years for a standard retirement but they need to calculate what my disability pension will be based on what my wounds are. When that day finally comes you may hear the yell there in Georgetown as I ride my way into the sunset and the arms of the woman I love.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:04 am

My take----first on windshield performance, you need a base line for comparison for good air management. Mine is the wonderful air management of a BMW equipped with Heinrich Handlebar Fairing and Leg Shields-----GREAT=all day comfort with open face helmet and looking over. I rode behind them for near 20 years.

Stock SilverWing is horrible! I had Clearview with GoldWing Vent, somewhat ok but I had to cut down to look over. No flexing. Better/Best GIVI adjustable. As your seated height varies from day to day. No fly off problems, but watched the 2 adjustment clamps.

Real problem basic design of scooter-----your nose is too far from tip of windshield.

My windshield experience covers over 1.5 million miles. All kinds of weather/conditions. Many bikes/scooters.

Buffeting can drive you crazy---looking thru can kill you.

Note: I have new Honda NT700V---old design, successful in Europe, sales flop in US.It has great air management, probably the best turnkey operation on market. Nose is much closer than on SilverWing. Tried National Cycle new design shield, after 3,000 miles sent it back as it was cracking around mounting points--probably too much wind area for mounts, causing the strain. The shield worked ok, flapped around---stock better.

Bottom Line: GIVI adjustable works best on SilverWing. Hign Side Winds, it can be lowered to get away from the sail effect.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:06 am

stock windshield finally gave me mpg's in the 50's and buffeting in the front vs wind pushing the back of my helmet forward with the Givi.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:31 am

john grinsel wrote:

Stock SilverWing is horrible! I had Clearview with GoldWing Vent, somewhat ok but I had to cut down to look over. No flexing. Better/Best GIVI adjustable. As your seated height varies from day to day. No fly off problems, but watched the 2 adjustment clamps.

Buffeting can drive you crazy---looking thru can kill you.

Bottom Line: GIVI adjustable works best on SilverWing. Hign Side Winds, it can be lowered to get away from the sail effect.


These are exactly the reasons I went with the light grey medium sized Clearview. I can look over just fine and the light grey optics really help with glare. I spent some time on the phone with Mark from Clearview and told him how tall I am, what I'm riding, where and how. He's quite knowledgable and I'm very happy with my choice. As I said earlier, the real bottomline is what works best for you where and how you ride. I don't like the GIVI airflow. I don't want the hassle of dealing with adjusting it and I also don't need the thought in the back of my mind that it may come off when I'm flying on I-10 to Tempe at speeds in excess of 90 mph. It doesn't work best for me. I'm glad, however, that it works best for you, John. BTW, I've been riding a BMW a long time too. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:20 am

For comment on BMW's-----Unless your were riding Heinrich Equipped, you have no baseline to compare-----myRT80 had bad wind management, among others, R75 with Wixon fairing very bad until lower spoilers were sourced.

GIVI adjustable won't come off if set up right, clamps understood. Of course any adjustments should be made standing still. Up down adjustment very handy.

To come to my conclusion on the GIVI I have tried various windshields and Laminar Lip on Yamaha TMAX, Burgman 400, Reflex, SilverWing and only aftermarket windshield on Helix.

Laminar Lip did not do trick for me----and they are better bolted on---Lost one on big bump in rush hour that was stuck on with their sticky things.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:47 am

john grinsel wrote:
For comment on BMW's-----Unless your were riding Heinrich Equipped, you have no baseline to compare-----myRT80 had bad wind management, among others, R75 with Wixon fairing very bad until lower spoilers were sourced.


I have a Hannigan faring and Hannigan windshield on mine. You can see it pictured on this forum here:

http://www.silverwing600.com/t3254p15-howdy-from-texas#33322

Not pictured is the piece that attaches to the windshield that forces the air up. As it is removable, and I'm on an Army post where youngsters can run wild sometimes on weekends, I remove it when parked. It attaches with super velcro that can hold 35 tons (or so they say) so I have little fear it will come off at high speed - that and it's light plastic rather than a heavy piece that could take my head off. Not to mention I use the BMW to haul my German Shepherd around in and although the speedometer goes up to 140 mph we don't go that fast anyway. You'd be crazy to with a sidecar of course. The Silverwing is my speed demon.

http://www.hanniganmotorcyclefairings.com/main.html
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:10 pm

Hannagan copy of Glaeser. Glaeser set up allows windshield to move up and down plus the spoiler. Not sure about Hannagan
So assume you get some still air
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:26 pm

Tom,

You need to understand something, no matter what your experience, John knows what is better. And most certainly what is best for you.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:35 pm

jdeereanton wrote:
Tom,

You need to understand something, no matter what your experience, John knows what is better. And most certainly what is best for you.


Yes, I seem to have had that point well illustrated for me. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:37 pm

Tom Said:
Yes, I seem to have had that point well illustrated for me.

Oh, it will be even more illustrated before you hear the end of this.

BTW.. glad to see you posting again. I missed you. Love that avitar.

Glad to meet your companion Baldur.
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PostSubject: Re: stock windshield or not   Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:13 pm

Thanks, Gary. Smile

I haven't been riding of late. Doc wanted me to leave off the vibration while the nerve damage in my hand and arm were re-evaluated. I decided it was the perfect time to get my Swing painted. Standby soon for pics.

Oh, and Baldur says "Hi!".
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