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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:47 pm | |
| Hi Max, Yes, there is a very noticeable lip (ledge) about about 3/4" from the OD. I do alot of hi speed freeway riding and the belt rides in this location most of the time. There is NO ware on the opposit Honda drive disc. |
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MaxB Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 302 Age: 60 Location: Indiana Points: 1321 Registration date: 2009-10-06
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:51 pm | |
| | DennisB wrote: | | Hi Max, Yes, there is a very noticeable lip (ledge) about about 3/4" from the OD. I do alot of hi speed freeway riding and the belt rides in this location most of the time. There is NO ware on the opposit Honda drive disc. |
Weird , just weird,
I wonder if you could have it wire weled to fill it back in and then turn it smooth at the same angle again.
The weld wire is usually very hard and should last forever.
It would be nice if you didn't have the wear in the first place .
MaxB ( just thinkin out loud) |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2160 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3057 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:08 pm | |
| | MaxB wrote: | I wonder if you could have it wire weled to fill it back in and then turn it smooth at the same angle again. |
I concur. A good machine shop should be able to have the pulley face reworked. They build up the surface. Welding is old school. Plasma spray is more common. Then the part goes on a lathe for precision cutting to final specs. Of course you'd have to price this against the cost of a new J. Costa and see if it's worth it. It might be. |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:45 pm | |
| I'm just thinking a set of sliders and calling it a day. |
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MaxB Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 302 Age: 60 Location: Indiana Points: 1321 Registration date: 2009-10-06
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| Dennis , don't trash it just yet. I will ask around and see if/what can be done with some machine shops around here. If not too costly ..... I amy be able to help out. It may take a few days to find out. A lot of them around here need the work.
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:31 pm | |
| Just found Dr. Pulley sliders for $53.00 with $5.00 shipping. Here's the information thread:
http://www.buggypartsnw.com/home?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=386&category_id=32
I purchased a set. |
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honda_silver Site Admin

Number of posts: 2258 Age: 51 Location: Georgetown, Tx Points: 3605 Registration date: 2008-12-23
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:36 pm | |
| | DennisB wrote: | Just found Dr. Pulley sliders for $53.00 with $5.00 shipping. Here's the information thread:
http://www.buggypartsnw.com/home?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=386&category_id=32
I purchased a set. |
They have both 26g and 28g (OEM weight) Dr Pulley Sliders ... which weight did you order??_________________ Bill - Georgetown TX 07 Silver Wing ABS Clearview w/vent, Givi E96/TB19/E52 with Admore Lighting, Alaskan Leather, Wrist Rests, 3M Solas tape, K&N air, Hyperpro spring, Grip Puppies, Airhawk, Utopia backrest, Stebel, Apexcone HIDs, StingerZ LEDs (w/Backoff WigWag), Knight Rider Sequential LED, NGK Iridium, Power Commander III, Manic Salamander, Saeng mirrors, Garmin Zumo 660, Dark-Side Sumitomo Tire  |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:04 pm | |
| Hi Bill, I got the 28g. I've been reading what I can on the sliders. I measured the weight of the stock Honda rollers and they were about 31.5g. I'm a very careful fellow and I'm thinking of doing a polishing job on my variator ramps so these new sliders work well in their new home. |
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tankyuong Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 387 Age: 37 Location: Missouri Points: 1628 Registration date: 2009-07-11
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:24 pm | |
| I weighed the stock ones digitally and they are exactly 28 grams |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:42 pm | |
| Your probabley right. The only thing I had to use was a postage scale that just measured oz's in 10's. |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:38 am | |
| Hi All,
Well, the Dr. Pulley sliders showed up and I installed them this morning and went for a test ride. At 70 MPH Indicated the RPM was at 5.1-5.2K as a result of the Sliders installation. That is sure a big jump down form 6K at 70 indicated with the worn J-Costa variator installed.
By the way, I was only getting 40.9 MPG with the J-Costa installed.
Now, in another 4K miles I will need a new belt...But for right now, it's great having my RPM's down.
This ends this topic....Thank You. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2160 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3057 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:42 am | |
| | DennisB wrote: | Hi All,
Well, the Dr. Pulley sliders showed up and I installed them this morning and went for a test ride. At 70 MPH Indicated the RPM was at 5.1-5.2K as a result of the Sliders installation. That is sure a big jump down form 6K at 70 indicated with the worn J-Costa variator installed. |
What was the acceleration like with the 28gr Dr. Pulley as compared to the J. Costa?
Sorry Dennis, I don't know how to delete this once it was posted.
I did a search and found the answer. JeffR had replaced his J. Costa with stock variator and 28gr Dr. Pulley sliders and he commented on the acceleration difference.
Here's the thread in case anyone besides me is interested:
http://www.silverwing600.com/silver-wing-accessories-modifications-f5/i-installed-the-dr-pulley-sliders-t485.htm
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dspevack Site Admin

Number of posts: 1142 Age: 47 Location: Miami, FL Points: 2584 Registration date: 2008-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:05 am | |
| | DennisB wrote: | | This ends this topic....Thank You. |
Apparently not... _________________ I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods hereReality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts. Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality. |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2160 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3057 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:42 pm | |
| | DennisB wrote: | bigbird, Alot less vibration with the J-Costa and alot more get-up and go. The scooter seems to be kinda flat now...Very little get up and go. Better gas milage is what I'm shooting for, and it looks like the Dr. Pulleys will give me that. |
I think that because the J. Costa raises the rpm of the engine, the engine runs closer to its torque peak "sweet spot" of 5000 rpm. The stock front drive causes the engine to run lower in the torque band, where not only does the engine produce less power, but it also vibrates more. That's my theory based on my comparison between stock and J. Costa. I wonder if 26gr sliders would pull the rpm enough to not significantly affect gas mileage while also providing more torque and less vibration?
At least you go what you were looking for Dennis, a 25% decrease in fuel consumption. |
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lee Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 9 Points: 806 Registration date: 2010-03-23
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:51 am | |
| hi all from the uk,i have a 2001 sw with 35000 on ,had the j costa on for about 10000 miles went through two sets of pins and after 10000 miles my rpms shot to 7000rpms at 40mph.after pulling her to bits the belt had worn straight through the variator face to a point where it wore the hard surface away completly and was on the soft aliminium.the other original honda plate on the other side was pretty worn too.i think the j costa is a bit much for the sw,i now use dr pulley sliders. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2160 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3057 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:14 pm | |
| | lee wrote: | | hi all from the uk,i have a 2001 sw with 35000 on ,had the j costa on for about 10000 miles went through two sets of pins and after 10000 miles my rpms shot to 7000rpms at 40mph.after pulling her to bits the belt had worn straight through the variator face to a point where it wore the hard surface away completly and was on the soft aliminium.the other original honda plate on the other side was pretty worn too.i think the j costa is a bit much for the sw,i now use dr pulley sliders. |
2 sets of pins in 10k miles sounds excessive. Are your driving habits extreme? Something sounds fishy. |
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lee Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 9 Points: 806 Registration date: 2010-03-23
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:41 pm | |
| i do ride to the extreme but i read on here other people are only getting about 6000 miles out of the pins before replacing,after that the revs shoot up.done 14000 miles on the dr pulley sliders now and no issues,the fun factor has gone abit but i need reliability as ive been as far south as the bottom of spain and east to russia,this year planning romania,wish i lived in the states more room to play. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2160 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3057 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:05 pm | |
| What weight Dr.Pulley sliders are you now using? |
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lee Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 9 Points: 806 Registration date: 2010-03-23
 | Subject: Re: Removed the J-Costa Variator Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:45 pm | |
| went for the 26gr work great for me |
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