I did, fitted it that is and I really don't care if you did or didn't.

Isn't going to effect my next ride!!

I had my scooter at the dealer for repair after an spill that was paid for by my insurance co. The windshield was being replaced and I had them fit my Givi AirFlow and I have never checked to see if they used them or not. I do know they were not returned to me so I assumed they were put on, but now you all have me wondering. I do know I have not had a problem with it. Perhaps I will check and see. I am lazy so until I need to get in to the front end for some other reason I may never find out.

Terry,

Yep, that's us. They say, down here in the states, that a "real man" doesn't need no 'forking' reinforcement type thingees.

At my age, I'll take all the "reinforcement" I can get.

Actually Jeff... Gary (opalsboy) DID install the bracket. Came with the kit,so, I put it on. I don't think not installing it makes you a bad person..

Gary,

So I guess that means it is one more wolf in the pack. Now that I think about it, I think it is DickO that is "one of us". I'm really just trying to draw peoples attention away from the "Darkside" debate, and if this doesn't work I'm going to start talking about oil.

lol

Oil is good.

I'm one'a them mekaniks that tends to have left over parts all the time... so a couple lil' ol' brackets didn't bother me at all

I currently own 3 windshields for this bike- the original (which I don't use), the GIVI tall one-piece shield, and a shorty shield I use in the summer. Can anybody tell me from practical experience if the Airflow shield has better performance than the tall one-piece shield, especially considering long cold-weather rides? I would love to get rid of any and all buffeting during my ride, but i haven't read conclusively that the Airflow performs any better than the Tall GIVI does (especially considering its $230+ price tag)

Thanks for your feedback,
Jesse in Atlanta.

Jesse,

I have had the stock, Clearview XL, Givi standard, and now the airflow. I think the Clearview XL and the Givi standard do a better job to keep as much air off you as possible, but the airflow gives a much nicer ride. Being in a part of California that doesn't get cold, at least to me, it is tough for me to determine which is really better to keep really cold air off of me.

But the airflow keeps alot of air off of you but you still get a very gentle amount of air, which is good in summer. I think the Clearview XL does the best job of all with keeping as much air as possible off of a rider, but don't order the XL with the vent (and I think they stopped that option with the XL). Mine would flex so bad that when I was on the interstate doing 70 mph or so, it would almost touch my chin and it would shake really bad. I think if I was still living/riding in Illinois I would have the Clearview XL on my SWing to keep the cold air off. Hope this helps.

Thanks Jeff!

I have had my Givi Airflow AF214 for nearly 4 months and it is like having a whole new SWing! The rave reviews that others have given the Airflow are IMHO all very true. I was actually afraid to go on the freeway much over 60mph(indicated) - especially if I had to overtake semitrailers, have them overtake me, or ride (unavoidably) in their wake. Normally I don't go more than 5mph over the actual speed limit; however, I am now totally relaxed at speeds of up to 85mph (indicated) as I have tried this for brief periods to see how the scooter would react. Being buffeted like a rag doll seems to be a thing of the past - except if there are strong crosswinds (20-30mph). I am 5'-10" and can see over the windshield at nearly every setting. It seems to give sufficient air movement when it is hot (100) and not too much air movement when it is cold (40). Where I live in California it rarely gets into the low 30s, so I can not comment on really cold weather. There is a lot less air movement over your hands with the Airflow. My only other basis for comparison is the stock windshield. From what I have read on this forum and based upon personal experience you need to CHANGE OUT your stock windshield and you should try the Airflow as your first aftermarket windshield (if you don't like it you can always sell it). Thanks to all that have posted their tips on the Airflow under this topic and a special thanks to JeffR for getting this thread going. I have read all of the posts as it took that many to get me to buy the Airflow windshield as I am by nature slow to be convinced - but don't be like me, BUY IT NOW! I got mine from Cli-MaxRidingGear.com for about $228 (free shipping and no tax if out of Texas) in October. They don't have them on their website but can special order them for you. Took less than 10 days to get this FedEx land to my doorstep. Be sure to read the installation tips on this forum if you want an easy installation (or read the GIVI instructions if you want to do it the hard way.) Without my Airflow (and my Airhawk) I do not know if I would still have my SWing - but with them I can not stay off of my SWing. Ride Safe.

I have a question about the Airflow and cross winds. On a recent ride the winds were in the 30mph range. I was on country roads that were two lane and fairly straight for long stretches. At 60mph (indicated) the SWing was very stable going into the wind, and very stable with the wind behind me; however, the cross winds (which were gusting up/down around 30mph based on weather stations in the area that I polled after the ride) were at the upper limit of my comfort zone - at least on this two lane highway. Also, when I would go around a bend in the road that was protected (say by a hill) and then emerged into a crosswind the SWing seemed as if it was drifting and it would give me quite a fright. Finally to my question: With an Airflow windshield what circumstances have you experienced where the SWing actually moved off of your line by 5 feet or more (not just giving you a fright with buffeting but actually moving the SWing unexpectedly over 5 feet or more)? Most of the crosswind buffeting I have experienced seems to effect my body much more than it actually moves my SWing. Any thoughts? Thanks.

Strong crosswinds do the same to me on my Swing.

Dimond, what you write sounds quite normal to me when riding in windy/gusty conditions.

In my opinion it is not a function of the screen, (airflow,) but more of the whole bike, rider and screen profile. The 'Wing' is a large machine and does have what I call a high windage factor. I.e. a big profile. SO it will be effected by winds.

Wind as you know is not a constant. Whilst forecasters will say the wind is 15 mph it is merely a estimate or average. Wind fluctuates constantly, in fact it is the reason weather forecasters get the weather so wrong!!! In the UK, most of the autumn, winter and spring in my area is windy or worse - gusty!

If you are uncomfortable riding in windy conditions - don't. My nemesis on the bike is ice, I will not ride if ice is forecast.

The best way to master riding in windy conditions is to do just that - ride. You will naturally adjust your riding style to suit the strength and direction of the wind.

Dimond,

It is a nicer screen than the others I have had. I'm glad you like it since it is a bit costly but by far the best screen I have had. It does give a more comfortable and stable ride IMO. I know there have been a few times when I had the standard Givi screen, and going over the San Mateo bridge, that it acted like a sail. I had to really slow down then but it doesn't really effect it much since.

I have a 2005 Silverwing and put the adjustable Givi Air Flo wind shield on it. I was in aviation for thirty years and we used to check "air foils" by putting a piece of Yarn on the surface. Yesterday I fasten a piece of yarn to the top of both pieces of the Air Flo wind shield (masking tape) to see how it was performing. It does a great job of air flow management. Try this. You will be pleased to see how it manages the air flow and gives the comfort zone for the rider as well as less wind resistance. This adds up to better performance.
Old Dave in Western Nebraska

I usually have top section of my Airflow high for comfort and quietness, what I'm going to try and remember to do when riding in cross winds is stop and lower the top section to see if it lessens the buffeting.

Thanks to all for the great posts. And thanks, Meldrew, for posting you mishap with the Airflow. I just ordered mine from PCA. I'm looking forward to the easy install and great ride it portends.

hi MarKB
you will probably find (all that work you put into your handguards fitting) that you will have to remove your handguards to have the airflow screen on as your handguards will hit the screen when turning with the screen being alot wider hope im wrong
jodders1

Ouch! Thanks, jodders1. I didn't think of that. In fact, the storm guard hits the laminar lip when I turn the handlebar for the lock setting - so I had to remove the lips. (The guards give better protection anyway.) I guess I will have to think on this for a bit.)

hi MarKB
your solution
have the stock screen with top laminar lip and handguards for winter
then take them off and put givi airflow on for summer sorted
jodders1

Mark,

You might be able to adjust the handlebars, up or down, for your hand guards to work with your windshield. I put a Pictorial on this and has pictures of adjusting the handlebars. You should try this and see if adjusting it so it works, is also comfortable to ride. It may work. Either way it only takes about 10 mins so it is worth a try. Good luck.

Did any of you try what I suggested with the yarn (string)? I have ridden my Swing with the Air Flow wind shield in the wind etc. and do think by design it is probably the "Best." I do not think, "appearance," wise it is the best. That is just me. I do like the adjustable and the Air Flow because of the "creature comfort," aspects.
Old Dave in Western Nebraska

I meant the laminar ears, of course.

Thanks, JeffR. I'll try adjusting the handlebars.

I’ve only added a few hundred miles to my silverwing since I bought it and all of them were on dry days. Since the scooter came fitted with the Givi 214DT which is too tall for me to look over I got concerned about driving with traffic in rain at night, I imagined I would get a lot of glare trying to look through the tall screen.

After reading so many good comments about the Airflow I decided to buy one, at least you have the option to lower the screen should you get any glare from rain at night.

Fitting the Givi AF214 to my Silverwing went a lot easier than I thought. Bigbirds instructions on page 2 on how to remove the garnish and tonylumps photos of the brackets on page 3 helped a lot, Thanks guys.

Here are some photos I took along the way:

A couple more photos.