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PostSubject: Rear shock settings   Mon 07 Jun 2010, 18:00

Please tell me what are the pros and cons of the 5 settings on the rear shocks...and by using either 1 or 5 does the seat height change? thanks dan
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Mon 07 Jun 2010, 18:53

Dan,
The seat height remains constant, the change is only to the preload. #1 is least, #5 is maximum. The more preload, the "stiffer" the suspension feels.

I weigh about 210#, I usually use either #3 or #4 setting.

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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Tue 08 Jun 2010, 00:36

Jon,

Maybe my bike is different but I notice that my seat height changes a bit. When my adjustment is at #1 I find that I look over the top of my shield by about an inch. And when it is on #5 that I see over the top of the shield by at least 2 inches and my legs aren't bend quite as much.

I wonder if others notice this too. My height changes about an inch I would say.
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PostSubject: Shocker adjustment   Tue 08 Jun 2010, 01:12

JeffR wrote:
Jon,

Maybe my bike is different but I notice that my seat height changes a bit. When my adjustment is at #1 I find that I look over the top of my shield by about an inch. And when it is on #5 that I see over the top of the shield by at least 2 inches and my legs aren't bend quite as much.

I wonder if others notice this too. My height changes about an inch I would say.

Hi Jeff

I haven't noticed the difference in height but i'll check that out as I've fitted a laminar lip to my screen and I've located it a bit too high particularly after I've been riding a while and i've started to slouch down in the saddle - I know i could re-set it but it's cold here at this time of year and would be a pain to get the glue to set properly.

One thing i did notice with my shocks was that i did not require the spanner to re-set them i just twisted them by hand - I'm no 8ft gorilla so i'm just wondering if others do the adjustment by hand or have I got a problem with the scoot - it's a 2008 Swing with about 3500k on it at present - great bike i might add!

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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Tue 08 Jun 2010, 01:16

Scottie,

I can change mine with my hand too which is great. The Reflex I had required a wrench and it was still tough to get it just right.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Tue 08 Jun 2010, 10:16

Well Madcatta and JeffR,

I'm not one to argue -- but I recently had both shocks off and had the chance to measure the overall length with no load. It made no noticeable difference what the setting was. The only difference was the static spring length.

This might be what you are seeing. The unloaded sag is less with the higher setting, so the scooter will sag more when loaded with the lower number. That should have no effect on seat height relative to windscreen height when moving.

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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Wed 14 Jul 2010, 19:45

Hi, I weigh around 280lb. and I sometimes ride with a friend who also weighs around 240. what setting do you think we should be riding on? Smile)
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Wed 14 Jul 2010, 20:22

Hi eggster34,

Well.....experiment a little with the setting and find the one that you like. I run mine on 3.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Wed 14 Jul 2010, 21:12

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With Patty and I on our 2003 we need a #7 or #8.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 08:11

Hey Dickie,

Do you have diffrent shocks than stock? The shocks that came with my Silverwing goes from 1 to 5 on the settings.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 10:08

I have mine set to '5'.

I usually ride as a singleton and like to throw it around a bit when cornering. With experimentation I found setting 5 was the best for my style. I do think you have to try the settings to come up with the best setting for your type of riding. I started at '3' and worked from there.

Try setting '3', a neutral position and see how you get on.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 11:39

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Nope I don't have any different settings than you. Just need better rear shocks for the back end as Pat and I combined hit right at the max carring load of the Swing. Just wishing for more settings....Dick
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 12:04

Hagon apparently still makes rear shocks, and also these are available from Japan:

http://japan.webike.net/products/1482794.html
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 18:54

Dan I am aware of both of the shocks you recommend. Just way to pricey for this old guy. I just wish Works Performance or Progressive would build a set. I have had these products on my last GW and the one I own now. Also added them to my Pacific Coast of a few years back. They work excellent (and last a very long time) and are a whole lot more reasonably priced.
To be truthfull the greatest help would be to loose a bunch of weight . Thanks for the comments and your input. Dick
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 19:12

Dickie I would love to loose 100lbs but I don't see that happening any time soon or later for that matter, tried for a long time. I weigh 338lbs and ride with my shocks set on 5 with or without my better half who is around 160lbs. So as you can see my Swing hauls a lot, I'm waiting on Dennis to design a set of overloads at a price I can live with.

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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 19:17

dickie wrote:
Dan I am aware of both of the shocks you recommend. Just way to pricey for this old guy. I just wish Works Performance or Progressive would build a set.

RE: Form Post from Firefox

Tom Edison
06/25/2009 11:52 AM


From: "Tom Edison"


I only show the Silverwing model scooter for the 2005 model
year.. you would need to verify it as the same for the 2007 model. I doubt that
it would be different, but we don't know for sure. The shock length is 16.62
inches (eye to eye center, fully extended). Also available is a 1" shorter
version. Steel Trackers, Street Trackers or Black Trackers are available with
dual rate springs. Steel Trackers @ $445/pair. Street or Black Trackers @
$519/pair.



All Works shocks are custom built
for rider weight, riding style and skill level and come with a performance
guarantee ( 30 days), parts and workmanship warranty ( 12 months on street
bikes, 90 days on race and off road vehicles) and are fully re-buildable.


A 10% discount is available to
AMA, AHRMA and other motorcycling association and owners group members, as well
as Police , Fire and Military personnel.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 19:27

It's one of those things that has been on the end of the to do list, but what I was thinking about is a set of spacers that would slip on and lock into to the stock shock spring ends. Not much, maybe 3/4". A person would need to compress their shocks to install them. Maybe some day.

Just a thought
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 22:18

Hey guys... one mistake I made a few months ago in adjusting the shocks. I moved the setting from "5" directly to "1". IF I remember correctly, the proper way to adjust downward is "5" to "4" to "3" to "2" to "1". Adjusting up should follow same procedure in reverse.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Fri 16 Jul 2010, 15:00

Honda_Silver
Just looked on the Works web site and none are offered for the Swing according to the application guide. I may be wrong but I think your e-mail is refering to hole to hole measurements and what will fit. Just because it fits does not make it the correct choice for the application. I am looking for a set designed for the Swing in the same manner as the Gwing. I appreciate the info you passed along as it does make a choice available.

crahar, I hear you on the weight thing. Doubt if I will drop any either. Good luck.
Dick
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Mon 06 Jun 2011, 04:04

dickie wrote:
Dan I am aware of both of the shocks you recommend. Just way to pricey for this old guy. I just wish Works Performance or Progressive would build a set. I have had these products on my last GW and the one I own now. Also added them to my Pacific Coast of a few years back. They work excellent (and last a very long time) and are a whole lot more reasonably priced.
To be truthfull the greatest help would be to loose a bunch of weight . Thanks for the comments and your input. Dick

I'm envious - a PCH...
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PostSubject: Adjusting shocks with trike kit   Sun 24 Aug 2014, 10:34

My SWing has a Voyager trike kit. Forgive my stupidity, but do I have to jack up the rear. Of the bike yo adjust the shocks or not?
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Sun 24 Aug 2014, 17:42

My 2012 was delivered with the shocks set to 2. I turned them by hand to 3 and later to 4. I've kept them on 4 since and find it a good setting for me. I am 5'9" and 240 and need to lose 60-70 pounds but I don't see that happening I'm afraid.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Sun 24 Aug 2014, 18:41

Rclanton1 wrote:
My SWing has a Voyager trike kit. Forgive my stupidity, but do I have to jack up the rear. Of the bike yo adjust the shocks or not?

Depends on where they are set now, but you might try adjusting them by hand and see if the adjusters will turn. If you can't turn them by hand, use the tool. Don't see the need to raise the rear to adjust them.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Sun 24 Aug 2014, 18:52

LDB wrote:
My 2012 was delivered with the shocks set to 2. I turned them by hand to 3 and later to 4. I've kept them on 4 since and find it a good setting for me. I am 5'9" and 240 and need to lose 60-70 pounds but I don't see that happening I'm afraid.

I really don't want to start more debate on rear shocks, but I recently swapped mine out for Hagon shocks, and what a difference! The first thing I noticed was my Swing leaned over more on the sidestand, no more suspension sagging under the wight of the bike itself. In the past, I raised the shocks all the way up to 5 or 6 and carrying 50 pounds of camping gear made the rear squat. With the Hagons, my Swing is nice and level when carrying a moderate amount of weight. Rode it on a 500-mile camping trip last weekend and it handled beautifully. I also installed HyperPro springs at the same time, the combination made a world of difference in the way it rides. For those who are happy with the OEM shocks, great, but I wasn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Fri 01 May 2015, 12:51

Hi all!

I am new to my Silver Wing ABS (2013) and would like to know more about the rear shock adjustment.  (Just bought it new last Saturday, April 25, 2015.)  The lowest number 1 provides the most smoothness, and the highest 5 is a rougher ride and meant for heavier loads like having a passenger.  For the life of me, I can't figure out the following:
1)  Are both my shocks adjusted to the same setting?
2)  Where is the indicator (arrow or something) showing what the setting actually is set at.
3)  How to change the setting.  Can it be done without a special wrench?

Please can someone tell me how this works.  I intend on buying the Repair Manual but have yet to do so.  I'm planning a ride this weekend with a buddy.  I'm at 180 lbs. and he's at 200 lbs.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Steve
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Fri 01 May 2015, 13:50

Hello mate, you can check which setting your rear shocks are on by looking at the base of them from the rear of the scooter. See those little round holes ? they're for adjusting the settings with a pin spanner or C spanner, the setting numbers are stamped in between them. You adjust them 1-2-3-4-5, or 5-4-3-2-1, don't try to force 3 straight to 5, just let  move them a single setting at a time. It's easy enough as I adjust mine with just my gloved hand.

As long as both shocks are adjusted the same number and at the centre of shocks as you look at them.

The maximum weight limit is 366 lb, and you and your buddy have a combined weight of 380 lb, so you're over the limit a bit. So obviously you'll need to set the shocks to 5 and also up the rear tyre pressure a couple of lbs psi. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Fri 01 May 2015, 14:00

Thank you, Silver Wing Guru! I'll see about adjusting them. What you've explained tells me that my shocks are not adjusted the same from left to right. I'll get a grip and turn them to the 5 setting today.

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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Fri 01 May 2015, 14:00

SteveSilverWing wrote:
Hi all!

I am new to my Silver Wing ABS (2013) and would like to know more about the rear shock adjustment.  (Just bought it new last Saturday, April 25, 2015.)  The lowest number 1 provides the most smoothness, and the highest 5 is a rougher ride and meant for heavier loads like having a passenger.  For the life of me, I can't figure out the following:
1)  Are both my shocks adjusted to the same setting?
2)  Where is the indicator (arrow or something) showing what the setting actually is set at.
3)  How to change the setting.  Can it be done without a special wrench?

Please can someone tell me how this works.  I intend on buying the Repair Manual but have yet to do so.  I'm planning a ride this weekend with a buddy.  I'm at 180 lbs. and he's at 200 lbs.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Steve
Yes both shocks have to be on the same setting.
The indicator is a number only on the bottom rear of the shock. The setting 1-5 must be facing the back of the bike. 1-light loads, 5-heavy loads.
No special tools or manuals are required, only the ones your born with. They are easily adjusted by a gloved hand. Just get a grip on the bottom of the shock and turn-   1-2-3-4-5.......NEVER JUMP FROM 5-1.......But 5-4-3-2-1.
You are breaking the cardinal rule of biking. 4 nuts on 2 wheels just dont jive.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear shock settings   Fri 01 May 2015, 14:37

Silver Wing Guru and Expert!!

Of course, you were right. applause Rolling Eyes What was I thinking... Rolling Eyes Wink

I noticed that the left shock was set at 2 and the right one set at 1. This causes me to wonder if the dealership where I bought it is perhaps not reliable! Once I put the bike on the center stand and put on a leather glove, the shock switched position (one notch at a time only). I switched both shocks to be set at 3 for now. I'll be riding it alone (2 nuts...it took me a few to figure that one out...I'm slow) and weight 180. I am curious to see how different the ride feels.

Thanks so much!! Much appreciated and will one day pass on the good stuff I'm learning here to another rider.
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