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PostSubject: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:38 am

Time for a coolant flush,and wish I had a shop manual!
can anybody tell me what needs to be be taken off to flush!???

If it's like my goldwing, I'm thinking possibly lower cowel?...
remove bottom screw on water pump (?) ...(looks like on German manual???)

thanks for any help on this!
Rich
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:10 am

In my service manual it begins on page 4.

Includes the following NOTICE:

Using coolant with silicate corrosion inhibitors may cause premature wear of water pump seals or blockage of radiator passage [sic]. Using tap water may cause engine damage.

Remove right inner pocket and radiator cap.
Bike should be on the side stand during the draining.
Remove the drain bolt (on water pump - left side of engine forward of the drive belt case).
Remove reserve tank cap and drain reserve tank.
Reinstall drain bolt with new sealing washer.
Place scoot on center stand - level ground and all that.
Fill the reserve tank to the upper level line.
Fill the system with recommended coolant up to the filler neck.
Bleed air from the system by doing the following:
Start engine and let it idle for 2 - 3 minutes.
Crack open the throttle 3 to 4 times.
Stop the engine and add coolant to the system to the proper level.
Reinstall radiator cap.
Check the coolant level in the reserve tank and add if necessary.

Check with Helm inc. for a service manual - they are the only valid source for this copyrighted material - new. You can of course buy a valid used book from someone who is selling one. But, if buying from ebay - Any other book available such as a CD-ROM with a .pdf copy is most likely a scanned theft of copyright material. I'm a Technical Writer and the amount of effort that goes into developing a publication with technical descriptions, images, and illustrations is significant. You wouldn't want someone to steal your work and not compensate you would you? Be kind play by the rules. - My apologies for the rant.

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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:08 am

Sweet! just the answer I was hoping for!!! thank you for Sharing!
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:04 am

I should have noted that it is page 4 of section six.

And, you're welcome.

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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:02 am

Also when buying a manual. all our bikes are the same. no matter the year. So you dont need a book just for your year of bike.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:10 am

Hi Guys,

There are quite few changes made to the electrical systems on the Silverwing from 2008 on up. So it might be worth your while to get the shop manual that goes with your year scooter.

Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:45 pm

Dennis, the only manual Honda offered when I purchased my new 2008 last year was 2002-2008 manual. Have not really studied it yet to see if there are notes for different years yet though. The cost was $64. They dont have a book for a specific year.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:57 pm

Hi Jim,

I also have a 2008. Honda has been undating the new service manuals as the years go by.

If you buy a 2002 - 2006 service manual, it will not cover the wiring for the 2007 - 2009 Silverwing. Close...very close but no cigar. They have made changes to the scooters over the years.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:37 pm

O ok, then at least I hope you are telling me Honda sold me the right manual for my year SW, with the proper updates. Been too busy riding to read the manual since the first year I owned it, all service maintainance was paid for. This year I have to read the manual because I am not paying on the average between 350 to 500 per checkup that the dealer charges. The 16k checkup was a whopping 789 so I am going to read the manual and start doing my own maitainance on anything that I can.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:09 pm

I just changed my coolant about a month ago, and they what the service manual neglects to tell you it that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get at the drain plug on the water pump without removing the lower skirt on that side. I was replacing the skirt at the same time (previous owner dropped the bike and scratched it that panel up), so I had it off anyway, but otherwise I think it would have been rather frustrating and much messier. With the skirt off, you have clear access to the bolt and the coolant can drain without making a mess (as always, be careful not to break any tabs if/when you take off the skirt).
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:16 am

edbancro,

It does not address that in the manual, but that makes sense as I look at the bike and so I've made that note in my book.

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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:16 pm

drain went good! I didnt take the skirt off, just took out 2 screws and a bolt,enough to pull it back a little and slip an opened wrench on!
Just losened and let coolant trickle out! No mess! straight down she went!
When it was done I took it all the way off,but no more came out!
(It's still on center stand! so I will have to put it on side stand to see if more comes out yet!)
Oil and Final drive done! Now I just have to flush the brakelines and
should be good to go!
Thanks again!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:53 pm

Anyone have pics of a coolant or brake line flush? Dale, thanks for the instructions on the coolant change. Could you possibly give instructions on a brake flush. Of course at your convenience. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:18 pm

Brake system flushing is easy. Get a piece of vinyl tubing at a hardware store that will push fit on the bleeder nipple, 3' should be fine. Push one end of the tube onto the bleeder nipple and put the other end into a jar or can with enough fresh fluid to cover the end of the tube. Remove the top of the brake reservoir, crack the bleed screw open on the caliper and pump the fluid down in the reservoir with the brake lever. Don't fully empty the reservoir, keep it filled with fresh fluid and continue pumping the fluid down until clean fluid comes out at the bleeder. shut the bleeder screw, top off the reservoir and put the lid back on and you're done for that caliper. When doing the rear brake bleed the front linked caliper first then the rear caliper. Again don't let the reservoir go dry or you'll have to bleed out the air that will get into the system. Use only a freshly opened can of DOT4. Brake fluid is designed to absorb water to protect the system from corrosion so using a can of fluid that was opened for some time will likely introduce moisture into your brake system. Much better to use a fresh sealed can of fluid.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:10 am

This could be of interest too

http://pages.infinit.net/mcrides/engine_tech/engine_coolant.htm

My next service job, Basketball along with the fork oil seals. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:22 am

The local Honda dealer did not have the (6.5 mm) crush washer in stock. They might order some that will be in next week.. maybe..

The parts guy said "Just reverse the crush washer this time. That is what most people do."

I may try reversing the washer but was also wondering if 6.5 mm crush washers from other sources might not work - i.e. hardware store or car parts... Has anyone used a non-Honda crush washer for the coolant plug?

What is the outside dimension of the "6.5 mm" washer?
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:45 pm

FWIW I never changed or reversed the crush washer when I changed the coolant in my SW
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:43 pm

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum, I live in Brisbane, Queensland Australia, my questions are, does anyone know where I can buy a workshop manual for my 2009 Honda Silverwing FJS400 -also how do I drain & replace the coolant,any help would be greatly appreciated, Regards David.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:19 pm

Where does one dump used coolant ?
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:30 pm

tankyuong wrote:
Where does one dump used coolant ?


Our municipal sewage system is OK with used coolant.
Down the toilet with a flush afterwards.
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:03 pm

bigbird wrote:
tankyuong wrote:
Where does one dump used coolant ?


Our municipal sewage system is OK with used coolant.
Down the toilet with a flush afterwards.


Our area has a special recycling center where you dump used oil and coolant. (Separate containers.) The stuff is toxic to many animals.

Maybe your municipal system has a sewer rat problem and are trying to poison them??
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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:02 pm

I placed pictures of the Coolant drain plug and the access to the radiator cap in my picture album, in case anyone needs to look.

I did not see a way to drain the overflow tank so I used suction. Don't drink the stuff...

http://www.silverwing600.com/gallery/Personal-album-of-Ishkatan/Personal-album-of-Ishkatan-cat_c170.htm?user_id=961




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PostSubject: Re: Coolant Change Info?.... Anybody?   Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:09 am

My Silverwing is a 2003, and the anti-freeze looks good when I open the cap and looked at it. I bought it used last year, and I now have 11,000 miles on scooter. Should I change water hoses, clamps, and anti-freeze, etc. or is a 8 year old scooter ok without changing water hoses? I have already changed belt, rollers, rear end oil, oil & filter, and spar plugs. Should I even worry about hoses and anti-freeze, or just ride and enjoy it?
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