Mike

Check out the Givi site. IIRC their Tunnel Bag mounts in
the same location. I'm not sure if they use some type of clip, or
velcro.

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Kurt

Is your side stand override switch mounted to the OEM plug, but the plug is put in backward?
Nice job mounting those other switches. Did you have to make oval holes to mount them? What are they used for?

Tim
'03 Silverwing, Cosmic Jumper
Philadelphia

Thanks, Kurt.
I'm not sure of the front mounting on the Givi bag but the back uses webbing and plastic buckles which require a strap.

The sticky Velcro is a farce on the Oxford bag.
I had a long correspondence with the man at Oxfords who swore blind he'd made it stick on the X9 tunnel.
I contacted 3M who make it and their man said (off the record) that the glue they used would never in a million years stick to the plastic!

I have had yet another thought about my mount:

I have thought I would use a webbing strop fixed (somehow) in the hole left by the plug.
So......what does anyone think about my drilling a small hole on the inner sides of the hole, sliding in a piece of something - either ally tube or a bit of the fibreglass whip aerial I just happen to have (already butchered to make short flag-poles), drilling a hole towards each end and fastening it with split pins. The strop will loop round it and have a plastic hook or buckle (both of which I have) dangling down on the other end to which I can attach the bag (which comes with a plastic buckle on the right end and to which I can add a D-ring.....yes, I've got one the correct size ).

If I'm boring you just tell me to stop and I will!

Att Tim,

re "Is your side stand override switch mounted to the OEM plug, but the plug is put in backward?
Nice job mounting those other switches. Did you have to make oval holes to mount them? What are they used for?"


I'm not sure what you mean re plug, but I did wire into the 2 wires on the Side Stand OEM switch side of the plug. I then ran 2 wires back up to the overide switch. With the switch in the down position(stand down) it lights up so I can see it is activated. A separate circuit is used to power the LED

The other switches required a STD size round hole (13mm/1/2")
From left to right,

1/ Fan overide, RED, The LED also lights up when the fan is on via the thermo switch. so I can see when it is on as well.

2/ Rear view camera/monitor. Yellow. Still having a wiring problem (low volts... waiting till next time the tupperware comes off)

3/ Not wired, Green, probably will be used for Aux lighting.

4/ Radio system RED.

No actually its an off the shelf square switch, I filed it back on one edge to fit the indent. Your suggested method may work well too

Does the bit of plastic shroud with the plug/switch in come off easily? I can't see any screws and I've almost completely lost my nerve when it comes to taking off panels for the first time.

MikeO,

Seems like I remember it is a friction mount. There are very small clutches, but they won't break as you "pry" the thing loose.

Thanks, Dale.
I'm very grateful for all the help, suggestions and patience from everyone - it's a good place to be.

Hi Mike,

If you would like, you can remove your right glove box and reach in and just push the little plug out with your finger.

Ah! Didn't make myself clear enough.

I meant to refer to the whole panel in which the plug is, the panel which is under the steering column.

Silly Me....I really should try to keep up, but the topic is "Plug - Body Part".

I have replaced that center panel before on my scooter and it is a pain. You need to take the front of the scooter apart to take out the left glove box.

Thanks, Dennis.

Job jobbed!

The bag arrived this morning - Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag in black (not the magnetic one).

http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/product.php?productid=142

Having pondered the mounting for some time with not a little help from here, I came up with the following solution:

Two lengths of ½" diameter aluminium tube - 2" and just under 1"
One length of 1" wide black webbing
Three 3mm pop-rivets with washers
Plastic buckle (comes with the bag)

The method isn't exactly as I write it but it's easier to explain this way:

I placed the two lengths of tube side by side - if you look at them end on they look like a figure 8.

Using one rivet, I attached the end of the webbing to the shorter piece of tube, wrapped it under the longer piece and rivetted it again so the longer tube was trapped in place.
I then put a rivet through the webbing into the longer piece so it can't slip out.
Then I threaded the other end of the webbing through the hole left after I'd removed the plug from behind the hole (having removed the LH cubby).

The webbing comes over the top of the top/shorter piece of tube so there's no direct pull on the closest rivet.

The shorter piece of tube is in the recess where the plug sits and the longer piece pulls up against the sides of the hole.

I then slipped the male end of a plastic buckle on to the webbing - the strap cannot now fall back through the hole - and triumphantly clipped the bag into place! The female bit is already attached to the end of the bag.

I've threaded the webbing through the buckle a couple of extra times so it's fixed, non-adjustable and unable to wriggle itself off.
I've heat-sealed the two ends of webbing to prevent them from fraying.

Because the webbing is marginally wider then the hole, it didn't fall out when I was fiddling with the buckle so it's not going to rattle about if I'm not using the bag.
The bag itself rests on the tunnel so most of the weight won't be on the webbing, just located by it.

The bag swings to the side so I can get at the petrol flap and there's a gap between bag and seat sufficient for me to have a bit of step-thru left.

Thanks again for all the help and suggestions.
I'm really pleased as well because I can quickly restore the bike to 'normal', having altered nothing and drilled no holes.

Happy to report that the mount and bag exceed expectations.
We popped into Holland for lunch yesterday - 35 minutes ride there and 90 back via the coast - and the bag hung motionless the whole time.
We had quite heavy rain and strong wind for the last half-hour and still the bag neither moved nor got wet.

I've used the two remaining buckles in the harness and a length of webbing to make a detachable shoulder-strap, enabling me to carry the bag over my shoulder when I shouldn't leave it on the bike.

I'm a very happy, self-satisfied bunny!

pics??????

I'll take a couple tomorrow of the bag on the bike, the shoulder strap and mock up a few of the 'manufacturing process' of the hook.

Sixteen pictures downloaded.
The first two are mis-labelled 'Picture 1 & 2'; should be
'Scooter-Bag Hook 1 & 2'

Picture 1 includes the two bits of wooden dowel cut to length I used to demonstrate the method. They are ¾" in diameter.
The aluminium tube in the picture is ½" in diameter.


The cigarette lighter was use to seal the ends of the webbing.

The Savlon was to soothe my wrist, grazed on the edge of the hole where the left-hand cubby resides!

Used the shoulder-strap in earnest on Sunday - works a treat.

pics??????

Yes, Kurt - they're there - all 16 of them - but no-one's made any comment, good or bad!

Yeah, all good. I did look the first chance after you posted them. pity it doesn't have a visitor counter on them. I spose all your descriptions made questions redundant. I like the way you can swing the bag out of the way to fuel up. OOOH I didn't mean that pun either!

Thanks, Kurt.
In fact, I think there is a 'View Count'.
I didn't think about the explanation being as comprehensive as that.

A brief update - the hook and bag are proving even better than I'd hoped and have survived a trip to the UK.

Pictures - they disappeared from my album at some point:

The first picture shows everything needed for the job.

I used wooden dowel instead of the aluminium tube and drawing-pins for rivets for demonstration.

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Very nice MikeO, where did you come across the driver backrest?

Thanks, Bill.
It's not cheap but it's the dog's!

Fixing to plastic......get a packet of screen fixing screws...these come with rubber expanding nuts. Just drill a hole the right size for the nut to slip through; then fix anything, eg D ring, bracket or webbing and clip to the 5mm bolt and fasten it down. Use this to fasten bags, etc to plastic. Try to ensure any pull is at right angles, and not in a direct line trying to pull the nut out. ...just my sixpenny worth