The tire didn't fail because of my installation. I have installed many bike tires and although it was a tough install I didn't overstress the bead or the sidewall. After hearing the stories, much care was taken not to stress the tire.

Won't rule out another attempt in the future.

G'day from Rolly Downunder.I can't understand what all the fuss is about.Use the correct size tire and run it to manufacturers specs.My manuel says 36psi for the rear tire.That's what I run.20,000k out of the original IRC crap that was on the scoot from new.I couldn't wear the bloody things out and the scoot handled like a wheelbarrow with arthritis.Changed to Hoops and have done 10,500k's so far.They are a better tire,the scoot rolls nicely into corners without wanting to fall over.What are these Darkside tires designed for,showponies or scooter riders?Don't persevere with garbage.Put the best you can afford on and treat it with respect.If you can't do that,walk. Cheers and Beers,Rolly.

Honda_sliver knows what he's talking about! I too use a Sumitomo 165/70 r13 on my S'Wing and have nearly 17,000 miles on it and still performs admiralbly. I have yet to make the back tire break loose from a high speed stop! Yes, I know we are suppose to use front and back brakes in stops but the better back tire makes the front braking almost superfluous. I am on my second darkside tire on my Burgman 650, first one was a Potenza 165/65 r14 after 20,000 miles now have switched to a Semperit 155/65 r14. I gotta say, it's ALL good.

G'day All.Well,I'll start with why I didn't change the original tires on my Wing as soon as I realised they were garbage.I decided to try and wear them out first,but I'm a very cautious rider,and was taught at an early age to see how long I could make things last,not how quickly I could wear them out.So,When I had some spare cash,I put Bridgestone Hoops on.A different scoot instantly.The rear Hoop is a different profile to the IRC and the scoot no longer wants to fall into corners.It rolls nicely and is much more stable.It's becoming very obvious to me that not only do we miss out on all different coloured Swings down here,we also miss out on choice of tires as well.My first choice was Michelin Pilot scooter tires,but after a 3 month wait,I put the Hoops on.My intention wasn't to offend anyone yesterday,so if I have,I apologise.Cheers and No more Beers when I'm on the computer.Rolly.

Rolly56,

This is a surprisingly charged issue and folks will react quickly and with vigor to any critique or praise of someone's decision to install a car tire on a motor bike or even an inquiry about using a car tire on a motor bike.

It is best in this world of free choice to do exactly as everyone else does, that way you can show your independence through conformity.

Cheers and No more Beers when I'm on the computer.Rolly. [/quote] I know you'll give up the computer before the beers, so it's been nice hearing from you. Seriously, it's all the different opinions that makes this forum so great and if someone is offended by your opinion, then it's their problem not yours. Hoist one for me and keep on posting.

I'm more interested in facts from actual experience. That trumps opinions every time, JMHO.