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ronjr009
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 176
Location: Greeneville, TN
Points: 1364
Registration date: 2008-12-28
 |  Subject: Dual Headlights on the New Swing  Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:03 pm | |
| Here is a link to the new Swing (400) with a guy riding it on youtube. They show only 1 of the 2 headlamps on. While not the 600 I would assume that it is the same. They must not study the competition very much. This was a sore point for many on the restyled Burgman 400 back in 2007. I hope Honda fixes that. I would probably just run with the brights on so that both are on. I don't like the one headlight on at a time deal.
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honda_silver
Site Admin
Number of posts: 2111
Age: 51
Location: Georgetown, Tx
Points: 3353
Registration date: 2008-12-23
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:21 pm | |
| | ronjr009 wrote: | Here is a link to the new Swing (400) with a guy riding it on youtube. They show only 1 of the 2 headlamps on. While not the 600 I would assume that it is the same. They must not study the competition very much. This was a sore point for many on the restyled Burgman 400 back in 2007. I hope Honda fixes that. I would probably just run with the brights on so that both are on. I don't like the one headlight on at a time deal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3P62IX0VZE |
I doubt it  ... I would be shocked.
The Honda SWing comes from the factory with the low/high intentionally aimed low.
The Honda SWing has the worst low beam vertical cutoff (even after adjusting). I switched to HID headlights to resolve. BTW my Honda Accord also has a low beam vertical cutoff.
So Honda has done everything and designed everything to prevent blinding oncoming traffic ... maybe legal concerns._________________ Bill - Georgetown TX 07 Silver Wing ABS Clearview w/vent, Givi E96/TB19/E52 with Admore Lighting, Alaskan Leather, Wrist Rests, 3M Solas tape, K&N air, Hyperpro spring, Grip Puppies, Airhawk, Utopia backrest, Stebel, Apexcone HIDs, StingerZ LEDs (w/Backoff WigWag), Knight Rider Sequential LED, NGK Iridium, Power Commander III, Manic Salamander, Saeng mirrors, Garmin Zumo 660, Dark-Side Sumitomo Tire  |
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Waspie
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 1485
Age: 59
Location: Portland, UK
Points: 2534
Registration date: 2009-07-26
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:16 am | |
| Bill, I think you may have inadvertently answered my question as to why I hate riding in the wet at night problem. I never thought of the headlamps being set too low. Now you have mentioned it, I will go away and re-address that particular problem and see how I get along. Cheers, Doug  |
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DennisB
Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts: 2300
Age: 61
Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma
Points: 3875
Registration date: 2008-12-28
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:43 am | |
| You know...with one side headlight on, this new honda scooter will quickly gain a nic name......."WINKEE"!  |
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honda_silver
Site Admin
Number of posts: 2111
Age: 51
Location: Georgetown, Tx
Points: 3353
Registration date: 2008-12-23
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:09 am | |
| | Waspie wrote: | I think you may have inadvertently answered my question as to why I hate riding in the wet at night problem.
I never thought of the headlamps being set too low. Now you have mentioned it, I will go away and re-address that particular problem and see how I get along. |
Originally, my dealer suggested running high beam the entire time with the original factory setting. Until I changed to HID headlights I did run high beam all the time (even at night) ... when a car was oncoming I would position the SWing on the outside 1/3 of the lane and surprisingly I had very very few oncoming vehicles complain ( 0.05% ). With the high beam, it provided better side lighting and better normal driving.
I would not suggest running high beams all the time if the headlights have been readjusted from the factory setting.
To readjust the headlights I turned on the high beam and adjust the headlights to maximize the high beam visibility. Then I then turned off the high beam and checked the low beam ... I would say I received better low beam visibility further away which was the greatest danger._________________ Bill - Georgetown TX 07 Silver Wing ABS Clearview w/vent, Givi E96/TB19/E52 with Admore Lighting, Alaskan Leather, Wrist Rests, 3M Solas tape, K&N air, Hyperpro spring, Grip Puppies, Airhawk, Utopia backrest, Stebel, Apexcone HIDs, StingerZ LEDs (w/Backoff WigWag), Knight Rider Sequential LED, NGK Iridium, Power Commander III, Manic Salamander, Saeng mirrors, Garmin Zumo 660, Dark-Side Sumitomo Tire |
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wes_ingram
Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 270
Age: 62
Location: Kingsport, TN
Points: 1341
Registration date: 2009-03-19
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:49 am | |
| Looks like a TMAX from the front. |
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MaxB
Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 302
Age: 60
Location: Indiana
Points: 1216
Registration date: 2009-10-06
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:12 am | |
| The reflex also has the dual headlight arrangement. I personally like it. Although they operate one high one low, they were easy to optimize aiming.
I would prefer that they are both hi/lo similar to the Goldwing. Which I feel has the BEST oem lights I have ever ridden behind. If Honda did that, It would be a very excellent lighting system.
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MaxB
Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 302
Age: 60
Location: Indiana
Points: 1216
Registration date: 2009-10-06
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:38 am | |
| I have used Sylvania Silverstar lamps in other bikes. The reason is twofold.
1. Better color/ quality/ quantity of light.
2. How the light is aimed onto the road.
http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Automotive_Lighting/Products/Headlights/SILVERSTAR/index.html
The light is a higher K number (5000K) which is a whiter light and is more easily seem by me and lights up the road better and a lot farther. By about 40% on some estimates. I also agree.
The light spread is controlled by shielding in the lamp itself, and the bikes reflector. Much better than regular lamps.
Cons:
1. High beam life is shorter. Mine last about two years or 30K miles.
2. Cost of lamp. I justify this by better quality of light produced.
They also have a lower K range lamp that emits a bluer light. I do NOT like these as they seem to wash away road side details, and don't seem to see as far down the road.
I haven't used HID lamps nor know any of personal experience. That said some feel they are superior to these lamps.
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mickey
Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts: 225
Points: 1275
Registration date: 2009-05-06
| | Subject: Re: Dual Headlights on the New Swing Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:00 pm | |
| I prefer a sharp vertical cutoff on low beam because I can use extra bright bulbs without blinding oncoming drivers. The only complain I have about my 2010 Xterra is that the headlamps just kind of scatter light around at random. A little bit everywhere, but nowhere enough to actually see anything. |
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