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 Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.

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john grinsel
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PostSubject: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Having purchased and used 4 new Helix (3 US Market, one Japan Market Fusion--Japanese Market one was same as US Market from Parts book, Riding them a total of 175,000 miles---Japanese one seemed smoother and faster than US models.

Drawback: J rated (62mph rear tire) on bike that would go 70mph or so downhill/tailwind. After long/hard/hot Freeway run in Japan had rear Bridgestone come apart....but I stayed up right....this happened at exit near Iwakuni where I lived and worked. No air loss, limped home on carcass.

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Easy Valve adjust

Easy drive belt change---no taking clutch apart, just squeeze rear pulley. One drive belt failure near Pulaski VA. Since I always carried spare belt, HRC took me to friend's garage, I changed belt on the spot. Destroyed belt had about 15,000 miles---time for change anyway

Easy oil change, no filter, I carried small drain pan, could change oil in motel parking lot and pour old oil in container and drop off at disposal location. In US I used WalMart house brand 10-40, Japan 10-30 recommended and used.

Now comes the best....low mounted rear trunk, allowed access to tools, rain gear,, etc.
Without disturbing the 2 Ortlieb Rubber bags I used on passenger seat---so once I set bags on rear seat for day, could access what I needed for the day's ride without moving bags.

Things that broke---intake stubs on all, Air box on one, all guts of mufflers shook loose at 30,000 miles----Honda Warranty paid for all replacement of broken parts.

I used old BMW tank bag as "hump bag"

Great sidestand---even worked in the sand of Baja MX, or on snow. Centerstand did its thing. Centerstand perfect.

Some buffeting---tried many different windshields. Tired rider back rests---gave them away. Rear luggage rack hard to find....did use top box.

I liked trailing link front suspension----it did not like winter salt.

All in all enjoyed them as both touring and everday work bike.

Last: foot operated rear brake really handy as balance aide in the slow stuff.

Engine could take endless wide open running.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:32 am

I liked my Helix too and kept it for eight years. It did have all the advantages, and faults that you mention. I used to average about 85 mpg Imp. normally, although the fuel consumption suffered badly if I was was on roads with long stretches of hills or and in head winds. It was also scary riding on busy roads in strong cross winds.

When I sold mine and bought a Yamaha Majesty 250, I soon realised it was a mistake and I missed the charm of the Helix for a long time afterwards.

Anyway that was fourteen years ago and I'm not so nostalgic about the Helix nowadays

It didn't have ABS or fuel injection, the headlight was only adequate at best especially on unlit country roads and was hard to adjust. The OE screen was pretty rubbish and was replaced with the much better Sprint Manufacturing, although neither screen offered decent wet or cold weather protection for the hands.

The rear trunk/boot while being very useful for rain suit, spare oil, and other junk had the rear wheel in the way so you couldn't store an open face or full face helmet there. So I fitted a rear rack and 50 litre top box from Non Fango which was a really good addition.

I imported a Utopia back rest for some back support and it was worth it. Although having to stick a sharp knife point through the seat foam to fit the seat post was a bit much. It also made a very handy anchor point for bungeeing Ortlieb bags on the rear seat. I made the perfect tunnel bag from a Chase Harper tank bag which sadly won't fit onto any maxi scooter I've had since.

I also used a magnetic sump plug which was made of a much harder material that that alloy joke on the Silver Wing.

Would I have another Helix? No it was charming, fun, and now very dated so I don't think I would.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:13 am

I never owned/drove a Helix but i am amazed at the mileage people clocked on these 250 size machines...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:54 am

I might add: I have owned 5 Vespas (4 new) Vespa can be made quite buffet free and have hand protection and windshield look over height right, one Daelim 125 (strong and good in Seoul traffic), one ReFlex(more sporty ride than Helix), one TMAX(really fun to ride, complicated drive train), Two new after 2007 Burgman 400's (Heavy, but I liked them) Test ridden BMW Scooter(not for me=expensive Kymco) test ridden Burgman 650 (heavy and maybe not good for the places I ride and want/or need to turn around.

From ownership experience, still find Helix favorite.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:02 pm

I for got, 2 new Silverwings, 2009 and 2013 leftover---heavy, weight biased to rear, not much fun to ride, but managed over 90,000 plus miles with them
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PostSubject: Re: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:39 am

ive owned two different Honda Reflex (a '02 and '07) I had just purchased the '07 used (about 10k miles) when the rings went bad. Dealer said the oil was new (I had checked it was full) but she must have been driven low oil for quite some time. a few years later I bought the '02 with 2200 miles. Rode it all over Chicago... fun scoot for city..

career took me to south Dakota and now Arkansas... lotsa interstate riding. 250cc motor just isn't enough for my 300lb frame... and a k7 b400 ran almost 7500 rpm at 75mph on I-30. My '13 Swing is just a great scoot so much so that I also bought a 2012..

why I have two swings is a story that I should share only over a cold frosty adult beverage...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Helix was probably best Touring Scooter for me.   Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:10 pm

The Helix was the only scooter I purchased twice, both new. Totaled first one and purchased another with the insurance money. Great scooters, just a tad bit slow for modern traffic on the interstate.
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