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 Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer

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PostSubject: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:30 pm

should I ?
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:32 pm

Why?

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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:19 am

wingnprayer wrote:
Why?
sometimes I like to start bike while on side stand.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:28 am

Guess it depends on whether this outweighs the risk of coming down if you forget the stand. Personally I wouldn't.

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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:27 am

IDisabling (for occasional personal convenience) any device or mechanism that the manufacturer placed on the bike as a "safety device" is probably not a prudent move.

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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:32 pm

When I first bought the bike I had a stock seat and was on my tippy toes stopped at lights to balance the bike. I disabled the sidestand cutoff and added about 3/4 inch to the thickness of the foot of the stand.

Then when I would get to a stopligjht, I would drop the side stand and the
bike would lean little enought that I could put a little weight on the side stand and keep my feet on the Swing.

When the light changeed I'd simply shift my weight to the right a little so there was no pressure on the side stand, kick it up, and go.

In the beginning, I forgot a couple times but it never was enough to affect my balance, and I built up a habit quickly.

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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:50 pm

I find the immobilizer to be an irritant. I often would like to leave the motor running for a few seconds while I drop a movie in the slot, or whatever.

It'll be a simple kill switch. You can short the wire ends together and that should do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:02 am

A lot of modern motorcycles have a starter interrupt switch on the side stand. If you've ever ridden off with the side stand down you may know why. I know of one fatal accident where the rider left a parking place, turned right and accelerated down the road then made a left turn which caused the sidestand to high side him into a guard rail. You might think the side stand would simply fold but often they lift the rear wheel off the ground and cause the bike to go down. The side stand safety switch is a good idea. One word of caution, if you sold a bike with that switch disabled you could be facing a serious law suit of the new owner was injured in a side stand accident.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:34 am

exavid wrote:
A lot of modern motorcycles have a starter interrupt switch on the side stand. If you've ever ridden off with the side stand down you may know why. I know of one fatal accident where the rider left a parking place, turned right and accelerated down the road then made a left turn which caused the sidestand to high side him into a guard rail. You might think the side stand would simply fold but often they lift the rear wheel off the ground and cause the bike to go down. The side stand safety switch is a good idea. One word of caution, if you sold a bike with that switch disabled you could be facing a serious law suit of the new owner was injured in a side stand accident.


Good point on the liability issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:28 am

I went ahead and disabled mine yesterday. After riding old Harley's most of my life this is more to my liking.

I like it alot better this way.

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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:43 am

It seems to me that the immobilizer switch could just as easily power up a warning light.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:49 am

That is a great idea and would be easy to do. When the stand is down is opens the switch and closes the circuit when up.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:48 pm

Working on the principle that Insurance Companies in the UK look for any excuse not to pay out in the event of an accident, I'd be extremely cautious about making such a modification, at least without informing them.
There have been cases where vehicle owners have 'invalidated' their insurance by doing such things as fitting after-market wheels (to cars), for example, without telling the company! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:13 pm

It sounds like your insurance company sucks. I was just wondering....does your insurance company require you to call them 24 hours before you take your scooter out for a ride so they can OK the ride. Just kidding.

Here in the US, the insurance companies work for us and if they get to fussy, we just let them go (fire them) and find another.
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PostSubject: Re: Disabling the Sidestand Engine Immobilizer   Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:48 pm

What is the best way to diable it so that if you want to enable later it would be and easy fix.

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