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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:12 pm | |
| All, I put together a information sheet for any body that's interested.  Thank You _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off".
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mickey Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 223 Points: 715 Registration date: 2009-05-07
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:48 pm | |
| Here's something for you to play with, Dennis: http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Made for ultralight aircraft, and intended to survive the elements while being lightweight and reliable. Monitor several temperatures and pressures simultaneously. WHY? Because you CAN, that's why. You can even mount up one of their "glass cockpit" gadgets and pretend you're Sky Pilot in the World of Tomorrow. Your altitude above ground level will never change (hopefully) but everything else would be functional. I suppose if a WAAS-activated GPS is accurate enough you could even hook up a single-axis autopilot to your handlebars, set the cruise control, and take a nap. I wouldn't recommend it though. |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:20 pm | |
| Mickey, Very impressive...but you need to take a few pictures so we can all see your installation on your scooters handlebars. If you have never seen the cockpit on an L1011-TriStar...I sure did when I worked at Lockheed Aircraft back in the late 70's. I was a electrical Engineer with Lockheed back then...now that was some AVIONICS. One GREAT Aircraft! _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off". |
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mickey Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 223 Points: 715 Registration date: 2009-05-07
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:53 pm | |
| My cousin flies for Southwest and says the avionics that garage kit aircraft builders are using these days makes the panel in his 737 look like an abacus. Those MGL guys are doing some amazing things. Just ONE guy, actually. He even wrote the operating system because he didn't trust the stability of any of the available ones. (Can you imagine trusting your life during a dodgy precision approach in hard IMC to something running Windows? Gives a whole new meaning to "blue screen of death.")
You could have all kinds of fun hooking up instruments that are intended for experimental aircraft. |
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Waspie Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 271 Age: 58 Location: Portland, UK Points: 658 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:25 am | |
| Dennis, a question.
Where does have you positioned the temperature sensor?
If I have missed it I appologise!
Doug _________________ Doug
2009 Silverwing in 'Silver' what else! (3600 miles) Heated grips - feel the heat!!!! - and a pillion backrest for Mrs Waspie to fall asleep against! (Don't ask).
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:52 am | |
| Hi Doug, Thank's for asking. I have my temp sensor and the power wires routed into the top of the handlebars removable cover, tie-wraped to the handlebars, under the cover. Temp sensor cable then loops back through the top opening of the cover and gets black tie-wraped to the mirror stem and exposed to the air temperature sample at that point. A person can experiment around with the sensor location to find the best location. _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off". |
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Waspie Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 271 Age: 58 Location: Portland, UK Points: 658 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:18 am | |
| Thanks Dennis, glad you understood my badly written question.
You will have to excuse my ignorance now! You have the sensor at the base of the mirror exposed to the outside air?
Would not the air during forward motion effect the temperature indicated on your gauge. I am thinking along the lines of wind chill! We all know when we ride the speed that as we ride, artificially drops the temperature. Please no-one mention kinetic heat - I don't think even on a 'Wing' we ride that fast.
Cars, (UK), have their sensors placed behind the mirror shroud, so is not directly sited in the airflow.
I was thinking, depending on the size of the sensor that it may be worth attaching around the handlebar hub!
Only my thoughts, please no-one think I am criticising, I am not, just wanting to add to Dennis's great idea. If I'm wrong - I 'm wrong, simple as that. Look forward to others views.
Doug _________________ Doug
2009 Silverwing in 'Silver' what else! (3600 miles) Heated grips - feel the heat!!!! - and a pillion backrest for Mrs Waspie to fall asleep against! (Don't ask).
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:29 am | |
| Hi Doug, Two things a person needs to keep in mined is heat coming from sunlight and evaporative water cooling. (Water found in the air around us all the time). The big culprit being the Suns heat. The thermalcouple on this unit is encapsulated in what looks like a small chrome plated case. Chrome platting does a pretty good job of reflecting the Sun's radiant heat, but to be far, I was thinking of using some white heat shrink installed over the sensor to give it a better chance of a tighter temperature range reading. _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off". |
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Waspie Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 271 Age: 58 Location: Portland, UK Points: 658 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:25 am | |
| Thank you again Dennis, it does sound like the chrome plating will do the job of shielding from the effects of wind and sun.
Sounds like you have a winning mod there.
You guys over there will never stop amazing me at the mods you come up with. I am regretting casting off my aviation, airframe/engine trade.
Maybe when Mrs Waspie stops leaving me work around the house I will get time to spend on the 'Wing'.
Splendid job Dennis, I always look forward to your next project. Keep up with the excellent work.
Doug _________________ Doug
2009 Silverwing in 'Silver' what else! (3600 miles) Heated grips - feel the heat!!!! - and a pillion backrest for Mrs Waspie to fall asleep against! (Don't ask).
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:22 am | |
| Just got back from the local Honda Bike shop here in Glenpool, The owner was busy doing a trike conversion on a GW and didn't have alot of time to talk, but did look at it...He LIKED IT! Hurray! He wanted my little product flier and said he would show it to a few people.
If you've looked at the M/C and Scooter digital Temperature and voltage displays (the one's you can see at night) offered these days, they range from $350.00 to $56.00 and you need to cut the hole for the display and drill a hole for a switch.
My little Digital Voltage and Temperature gauges sell for $67.00 each ($128.00 a set)and if you sell your scooter, you just remove it and mount it on your new Honda.
If you choose to buy both the Digital Voltage and Temperature gauges $128.00 for both.
For USA orders, shipping will be USPS Priority Mail for $6.00 USD .
For international orders (PayPal), shipping will be USPS Mail Servise for $10.00 USD. _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off".
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mickey Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 223 Points: 715 Registration date: 2009-05-07
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:39 pm | |
| | Waspie wrote: | Thanks Dennis, glad you understood my badly written question.
You will have to excuse my ignorance now! You have the sensor at the base of the mirror exposed to the outside air?
Would not the air during forward motion effect the temperature indicated on your gauge. I am thinking along the lines of wind chill! We all know when we ride the speed that as we ride, artificially drops the temperature. Please no-one mention kinetic heat - I don't think even on a 'Wing' we ride that fast.
Cars, (UK), have their sensors placed behind the mirror shroud, so is not directly sited in the airflow.
I was thinking, depending on the size of the sensor that it may be worth attaching around the handlebar hub!
Only my thoughts, please no-one think I am criticising, I am not, just wanting to add to Dennis's great idea. If I'm wrong - I 'm wrong, simple as that. Look forward to others views.
Doug |
Moving air only affects the probe if the probe is wet. Then it becomes a barometer. |
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Emeskay Super Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 230 Age: 50 Location: Southern Maryland Points: 683 Registration date: 2009-06-15
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:37 am | |
| Dennis,
Would these work on my husband's BMW? He bought himself a fancy top box that puts a drain on his battery, and it seems like it would be a great thing for him to have.
Thanks,
M- _________________ Ride safe, everyone!
Candy red Silverwing with Clearview vented windshield, Manic Salamander handlebar weights, Givi top box, fog lights, Alaskan Sheepskin seat cover, 12 volt auxiliary, heated grips, 3 Brothers backrest, ABS brakes, Waterproof GPS holder
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:05 am | |
| Hi Mandy, Thank's for interest. The Resevoir covers are not the same...I'm sure. To get the Voltage gauge to work on a BMW, I would need to know what the BMW brake resevoir looked like. Is it rectangular like the Honda's and what the dimensions of the cover and the distance between the center of the covers mounting holes? Is there 2 screws or 4 (1 in each corner)? It might work...but I would need to use a BMW resevoir cover. _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off". |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1214 Age: 60 Location: Glenpool, Oklahoma Points: 1964 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:28 pm | |
| Got the new scooter dc volt meter in and have it installed. It's amazing how much voltage is pulled by different things on the scooter. At idle the new voltage meter shows 14.3 Volts DC and jumps to 14.4 when I increase the RPM's. When I turn on the driving lights the system drops down to 13.8 volts at idle. Just thought you'll might like to see a picture or two. It been trying to rain all day and the temperature is 53 F. Pulled the scooter out of the garage, for a minute, to get a couple of shots.  _________________ DennisB - 2008 Silverwing Owner - Forum Moderator  Favorite quotation: "Lord, we give you Curly. Try not to piss him off". |
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Opalsboy Silver Wing Rider


Number of posts: 449 Age: 65 Location: Rison, Arkansas Points: 1047 Registration date: 2009-01-10
 | Subject: Re: Temp & Voltage Meters Mounted to Brake Resevoir Cover Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:19 am | |
| Good looking mod Dennis. I want the set so add me to the list of potential customers. I am curious... the toggle switch on the top for the temp guage toggles from F to C temps. What does it do for voltage?
I would like to see a photo of your scoot from a distance that shows both meters installed. Or you can come down here for a visit. I hope you are too busy to do the visit, so get the camera out again. _________________ If you are looking for an option to prolong your riding opportunities. Go to the trinitytrike.com site at http://tinyurl.com/256nn25 (Open in new window) for options and information. |
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