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 J. Costa Variator

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JeffR
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:18 am

Vito,

You should order it from www.scootertrap.com yourself and install it yourself. The very first post of this topic is a step-by-step pictorial on how to install it. It would be cheaper to buy the tools than to pay the shop to do the work. Matt, the owner of scootertrap gives great customer service for all the things he sells. You can cut out the middleman, the dealer, and get it yourself. It is a very simple task to do if you have the tools. If you need help then just get back to me.

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2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:01 am

vito wrote:
What can I expect in the way of cost to have my dealer order the J. Costa variator and install it on my SW?


I had difficulty getting one in UK, so I got mine from the scootertrap. $280, but it worked out well for me as the exchange rate to the UK pound was quite good back then.

http://www.scootertrap.com/SilverWing600.htm

They had it shipped to me at home. I took it to my preferred (non Honda) dealer and also printed off JeffR's fitting instructions. Back then before I came along although they were experienced with scooters, they hadn't done much with the Honda Silver Wing..... But it only took them about 45 minutes to fit.... I just paid the labour.....

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PostSubject: J Costa Mod   Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:13 am

I thought I'd chime in on the J Costa, I just popped on on the bike and the guy at Scooter Trap who sold it to me gave me some good advice, don't go to Honda, find a scooter store, so I did. When I called Honda they weren't sure how long it would take (this a is a large dealer) to install and were talking up to two hours, the scooter place said it would be 30 minutes and it was. I walked over to the Dunkin Donuts across the raod while they put it in and when I got back the three mechanics were standing around grinning at the bike. I asked if they'd put it in yet since I had only been gone a little while and they had it an and all three had given it a test ride. They couldn't believe a scooter could take off like that.

I road the old version for about 2000 miles before switching to the Costa (mostly because of what I read here). I'd say the difference is like going from a prop to a turbine engine. This thing just winds up and goes. The top end is past my personal limits so I can't say how fast it'll go, I'm not interested, I just like the smooth ride and predictable acceleration.

I think if Honda sold the bikes side by side they'd sell more with the J Costa than without. Just my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:05 am

kiggs,

I don't think the J. Costa improves the top end at all but then again the SWing doesn't need to go any faster. With the stock screen I have had mine up to 104 mph actual (gps) and with the XL Clearview I had it to 102 mph actual. That is plenty fast for me. But it really improves the acceleration and smooths it out. Another thing you will notice is the additional engine braking, which is great when coming down steep hills or mountains. Hope you like it.

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2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:05 pm

Additional engine braking is a reallygood thing but I don't thing you'll be going down to many steep hills or mountains at Daytona Bike Week!
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:20 pm

104 mph actual on a Silver Wing? That had to be scary!
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:25 pm

Jeff:
How did you measure your top speed? Do you have GPS on your bike? Like you, I have the Givi windshield and J Costa, but I also have a K&N air filter and the Leo Vince exhaust. I have a long, slightly downhill (

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Or maybe a Kawasaki Concours 1400 with ABS...

or an ST1300...

Let's ride...
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:25 pm

Pete,

104 mph wasn't scary at all. The SWing is very smooth and stable and had no problem maintaining that speed. As for the mountains, I live in California and not Florida so I ride in the mountains all the time.

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2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:27 pm

Scooterist,

yes I have a GPS on my bike and that is what I used to get the speed. I just assume that the GPS speed is accurate enough to consider it an actual speed. The SWing seems that it gets smoother the faster you go. When I did this I was on a level interstate with no wind. Bernardo has everything you have on your SWing, and also the power commander, and I think he posted a top speed of 105 mph.

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2007 Silver Wing (30,000 miles)
2005 Majesty 400 (sold 12,500 miles)
2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

Givi Windshield, top case, vista cruise, power commander, dr pulley sliders, air hawk seat pad, (J. Costa not installed now), kevlar belt


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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:32 pm

Jeff: I seem to have lost the rest of my message above.

I was able to pretty much wind my bike out over that long stretch and it indicated a speed of 112 mph, which would be approximately 106 if the speedometer reads 5% faster that actual. I think that was pretty much all the bike has. It felt very stable and smooth.

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2007 Silverwing - "Growler" - with 17,000 miles and counting; Givi windshield, Givi top case with back rest, K&N air filter in a drilled air box, Leo Vince Exhaust, J Costa variator, HyperPro Springs, and Oxford heated grips. All I need now is a power commander, and a nitrous kit with a blower...

Or maybe a Kawasaki Concours 1400 with ABS...

or an ST1300...

Let's ride...
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:04 pm

You guys are killing me with all the J. Costa talk!! :At Wit's End:

I was waiting til spring before ordering and then the Canadian dollar nose-dived dramatically (after rising dramatically). What would have been less than $280 is now going to cost $350 or more!! And that's not counting S&H, customs, brokerage fees and taxes!! affraid

I'll just wait til a night out :beer: when my credit card is a little more accessible.

I love these emoticons!! :bounce1:

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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:41 pm

If you need help rationalizing the purchase of the J Costa, then bear with me. While cost is always a factor that we must consider, in this case, since you were all ready prepared to spend $280.00 for the purchase of the J Costa, the additional cost at this point is only $70.00. Why, that is less than four 12 packs of premium beer! And a mere pittance when you consider the increased enjoyment your Swing will provide. So promise you will drink less premium beer and also promise that you will ride the bike a little extra so you can pay back the extra $70.00. And in a couple of months you won't even remember that it cost $70.00. Have fun!

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2007 Silverwing - "Growler" - with 17,000 miles and counting; Givi windshield, Givi top case with back rest, K&N air filter in a drilled air box, Leo Vince Exhaust, J Costa variator, HyperPro Springs, and Oxford heated grips. All I need now is a power commander, and a nitrous kit with a blower...

Or maybe a Kawasaki Concours 1400 with ABS...

or an ST1300...

Let's ride...
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:23 pm

Actually Scootist - I rarely drink (all Canadian beer is premium beer :yoyo: ), its just one of those "Damn, if I had just . . . ! things".

I suspect I'll be ordering one of them fangled things soon. Snow is almost all gone here and I've just done the pre-season check.

I'm kinda surprised that Honda didn't have a more efficient variator design from the get go . . . of course, a 750 version with the option of a J. Costa for the same performance increase would be nice!!

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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:24 pm

and 16-inch wheels...

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2007 Silverwing - "Growler" - with 17,000 miles and counting; Givi windshield, Givi top case with back rest, K&N air filter in a drilled air box, Leo Vince Exhaust, J Costa variator, HyperPro Springs, and Oxford heated grips. All I need now is a power commander, and a nitrous kit with a blower...

Or maybe a Kawasaki Concours 1400 with ABS...

or an ST1300...

Let's ride...
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PostSubject: Re: J. Costa Variator   Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:36 pm

. . . and a factory supercharger kit (yes, I'm stretching but why stop now)!!
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