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PostSubject: Backrests for the S'wing   Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:53 am

Hi all.

I recently purchased and installed a 3-Brothers backrest, and am finding that I get a pain in my tailbone when I ride any distance. Does anyone else have this problem? I know that my tailbone rests on the cover portion of the backrest (the part that 3-Brothers actually made). I'd really love to hear if there is an alternative backrest solution that doesn't put pressure on the tailbone.

Thanks,

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:34 am

Hi Mandy,

What I'm thinking of is a small piece of wood and longer bolts. Place the wood spacer between the bracket and the Pad. This might help you. Experiment around a little with this. The spacer (wood) does not need to be that thick and can be painted black to finish it off, once your happy.

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:40 am

check out leroybeal.net
you'll find a tutorial for modifying the stock butt-rest into a backrest.
some of us have done this, and speaking for myself only, I like it. the results for me had to be re-modified so as to put the final product into the small of my back, rather than higher, where it was following the initial specs. after doing this, I've been quite comfortable with the result for many months now, whereas initially the position of the rest caused back pain - it was too high for me.

this is one option anyway. MikeH created another mod for a back rest. maybe he'll chime in on that.

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:48 am

Emeskay wrote:
Hi all.

I recently purchased and installed a 3-Brothers backrest, and am finding that I get a pain in my tailbone when I ride any distance. Does anyone else have this problem? I know that my tailbone rests on the cover portion of the backrest (the part that 3-Brothers actually made). I'd really love to hear if there is an alternative backrest solution that doesn't put pressure on the tailbone


The Utopia ( http://www.utpr.com/silverwingnew.html ) backrest is the adjustable up/down and forwards/backwards as well as the pad pivots to provide the best comfort. Since I have installed the Utopia backrest, I have never had any back or shoulder pains/aches.

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:35 pm

I also just recently put on the 3 Brothers backrest and have the same problem. I have used spacers to adjust the orignal backrest some but I'm still trying to tweek/modify it for myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:03 pm

I have the 3 Brothers backrest and I put spacers on the top 2 screws. Like Dennis said, you will need to get longer screws and get some 1/4" spacers just for the top 2 screws. What this does to my backrest is it alters the angle so the top of the backrest is angled more forward than normal. One thing I also did with my stock backrest was to only use the top 2 bolts and put those on the bottom 2 bolt holes. This raised the stock backrest about an inch which is more comfortable for me. You might want to get 2 new and longer machine screws and a couple of 1/4" spacers and see how this helps.

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PostSubject: Backrest options   Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:36 am

I have also tried the 3brothers backrest and made adjustments similar to DennisB, and it works pretty well.
However, I went ahead and ordered a Utopia backrest which I hope to have in about 2 weeks. The reason I decided to give the Utopia a try is because while I'm relatively happy with the 3brothers version, it really makes pillion riding very difficult because the raised buttrest is so wide that it's difficult for the pillion to reach the foot pegs. While I had the bike up on the center stand, I tried to reach the foot pegs and the raised backrest rest forced my legs to be splayed out, and I could only touch the very ends of the fold-out foot pegs. And because I also have a Givi E52 with backrest, the pillion seating area is very cramped with that big backrest being forced up and back by the 3brothers backrest assembly. I could barely squeeze onto the seat between the raised backrest and the Givi E-52 backrest, and I am quite thin. I'm not happy about cutting-into both my seat and backrest to mount the Utopia, but the Utopia will be adjustable on-the-fly and it will use-up less passenger "space" since the actual back-pad not as wide and deep as the raised backrest needed for the 3brothers and other similar backrest products that raise the backrest instead of adding a pad on top.
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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:34 am

Thanks to all of you for getting back to me! :thank you:

DennisB wrote:
Hi Mandy,

What I'm thinking of is a small piece of wood and longer bolts. Place the wood spacer between the bracket and the Pad. This might help you. Experiment around a little with this. The spacer (wood) does not need to be that thick and can be painted black to finish it off, once your happy.

DennisB


I'm going to try adding spacers to the top two screws. What do you think about using hard rubber washers to do this?




JeffR wrote:
One thing I also did with my stock backrest was to only use the top 2 bolts and put those on the bottom 2 bolt holes. This raised the stock backrest about an inch which is more comfortable for me.


I'm probably not tall enough to need to raise the backrest up, but moving it forward really sounds like a good start.


If that doesn't work, I'm going to order a Utopia. Where did you get yours?

Thanks again!

Mandy

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:38 am

pjmartone wrote:
However, I went ahead and ordered a Utopia backrest which I hope to have in about 2 weeks. The reason I decided to give the Utopia a try is because while I'm relatively happy with the 3brothers version, it really makes pillion riding very difficult because the raised buttrest is so wide that it's difficult for the pillion to reach the foot pegs. While I had the bike up on the center stand, I tried to reach the foot pegs and the raised backrest rest forced my legs to be splayed out, and I could only touch the very ends of the fold-out foot pegs. And because I also have a Givi E52 with backrest, the pillion seating area is very cramped with that big backrest being forced up and back by the 3brothers backrest assembly. I could barely squeeze onto the seat between the raised backrest and the Givi E-52 backrest, and I am quite thin. I'm not happy about cutting-into both my seat and backrest to mount the Utopia, but the Utopia will be adjustable on-the-fly and it will use-up less passenger "space" since the actual back-pad not as wide and deep as the raised backrest needed for the 3brothers and other similar backrest products that raise the backrest instead of adding a pad on top.


Plus the Utopia pivots forward completely flat for passenger mounting and demounting ... which really helps.

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PostSubject: back rest   Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:16 am

hi all when i took off the three brothers rest it was just a bit of wood with some bit of foam, my man who did my seat nearly passed out, so he changed it now i have memory foam in the bottom and hard in the rest of the back rest much better
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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:55 am

adammetselaar wrote:
hi all when i took off the three brothers rest it was just a bit of wood with some bit of foam, my man who did my seat nearly passed out, so he changed it now i have memory foam in the bottom and hard in the rest of the back rest much better


This sounds like a good possibility as well. I have the tools to put the cover back on. I'd just need to get some memory foam. Did you recover all of the 3 Brothers piece with the memory foam?

Does anyone have a site to check out the Utopia?

Thanks,

Mandy

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:50 am

Emeskay wrote:
Does anyone have a site to check out the Utopia?


http://www.utpr.com/silverwingnew.html

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:36 am

Thanks, Bill. I think I owe you an avatar if you'd like one, for all your help!

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:41 am

honda_silver wrote:
http://www.utpr.com/silverwingnew.html


Do you know if you have to leave the stock seat back on when using the Utopia seat?

Thanks, Mandy

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PostSubject: Re: Backrests for the S'wing   Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:00 am

Emeskay wrote:
honda_silver wrote:
http://www.utpr.com/silverwingnew.html


Do you know if you have to leave the stock seat back on when using the Utopia seat?


http://www.utpr.com/silverwingnew.html

Right after the pictures

"Stock pad must be in rear position and will no longer be adjustable. Go to Backrest Specifications to see all the adjustments of our backrest. Can also be installed without stock pad (lower picture above)."

I believe it was better without the backrest. If you want the Utopia keep you more forward in the seat, You can adjust the set screw forward ... if you need even more forward movement you could replace the set screw with a longer set screw or raise the backrest and then readjust with the set screw.

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